Why don't we follow.....

[BB71Mopar]

MUSLIMS IN AUSTRALIA

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on

Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

Treasurer Peter Costello hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television. "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another, the Islamic law, that this is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law, and have the opportunity to go to another country which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off". "Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off," he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spies monitoring the nation's mosques.

BRITS, AMERICANS and CANADIANS.....ARE YOU LISTENING?

This is Leadership with guts! The way it is. The way it should be Our men and women died in two world wars to get us this country and we are giving it away.

I think Australia has the right idea....GET THE FU(K OUT!!!

[ricefed]

Hell ya.

[Sleeper]

I agree, get the F*CK OUT.

[easy2cy]

Hell yeah, that's why I like the Aussies.

[CableGuy]

They are a VERY fair and VERY just country. I wish out goverement was 1/2 of what they are.

(And they are the same with all colors/religions/nats.)

[Lunati397]

god damn right thats awsome

[BB71Mopar]

All it takes is a leader with a back bone... ie.. not Bush!

[detroitfire23]

We don't have the balls to do it...and yes, I think it's :bs:

[Mike94ZLT1]

I want to move there.

[That Guy]

Finally... someone said it. Get with the program, or get the fuck out

+1, nice find.

[stalked_R/T]

All it takes is a leader with a back bone... ie.. not Bush!


how can you say Bush doesn't have a backbone? Of all the leaders we've had and had to chose from he's the one with the most backbone out of the whole group. Think Kerry would have a backbone to stand up to criticism of the war? He wouldn't have even gone to war with Afganistan let alone known how to stand up to media pressure on something that people might not agree with. Gore? There's a real backbone leader. he's so interested in his personal image that he's out promoting a movie about saving the environment while at the same time wasting more natural resources than most of the people he's criticizing. Clinton? C'mon. The guy only had balls when it was time for a fat chick to pour wax on them. So what exactly are you saying when you say "ie, not Bush".

[IT-Purrrs]

Aussies are great. It is actually very hard for any person to move there. Something we need to learn from, and stop letting people in our country as easily.

[BB71Mopar]

IMO Bush doesn't have controll over anything. He is just put there so the American people can point a finger at when something goes wrong. I am not saying he is a bad President but he has to step up and stop getting walked on by the staff that he is suspose to run. Why aren't there stricter laws on illegal aliens or prospected terrorists? The Government is more worried about taxes and helping some country god knows where with their debt and not following the major issues in their own back yard. The man just needs to step up and say "this has gone to far".

[82hatch]

IMO Bush doesn't have controll over anything. He is just put there so the American people can point a finger at when something goes wrong. I am not saying he is a bad President but he has to step up and stop getting walked on by the staff that he is suspose to run. Why aren't there stricter laws on illegal aliens or prospected terrorists? The Government is more worried about taxes and helping some country god knows where with their debt and not following the major issues in their own back yard. The man just needs to step up and say "this has gone to far".

He has and has gotten ripped by all the liberal media. I'm not happy with his stance on illegals but niether party has a good plan.

[BB71Mopar]

and still no one has done anything about it. I am not a political person so pardon me if I sound stupid.

[82hatch]

and still no one has done anything about it. I am not a political person so pardon me if I sound stupid.

I'm not mr. political either but I try to pay somewhat attention. Really try to pay a lot of attention to my city gov't since those bastards raised my water bill! :mad: I know who I'm voting out next time. ;)

[BB71Mopar]

someone that supports english as the official launguage.

[82hatch]

Damn stright. If you don't want to learn English, get the hell out!:badass: I deal with A LOT of people who can barely speak English. :mad:

[BB71Mopar]

Try being a landscaper... you go to get supplies and you can't understand the person selling you the supplies. I think that is BS

[82hatch]

Try being a landscaper... you go to get supplies and you can't understand the person selling you the supplies. I think that is BS

Yeah that would suck too.

[91Notch]

:buttkick:

[L98Terror]

how can you say Bush doesn't have a backbone? Of all the leaders we've had and had to chose from he's the one with the most backbone out of the whole group. Think Kerry would have a backbone to stand up to criticism of the war? He wouldn't have even gone to war with Afganistan let alone known how to stand up to media pressure on something that people might not agree with. Gore? There's a real backbone leader. he's so interested in his personal image that he's out promoting a movie about saving the environment while at the same time wasting more natural resources than most of the people he's criticizing. Clinton? C'mon. The guy only had balls when it was time for a fat chick to pour wax on them. So what exactly are you saying when you say "ie, not Bush".

Agreed, he's the only one with half a backbone

[L98Terror]

IMO Bush doesn't have controll over anything. He is just put there so the American people can point a finger at when something goes wrong. I am not saying he is a bad President but he has to step up and stop getting walked on by the staff that he is suspose to run. Why aren't there stricter laws on illegal aliens or prospected terrorists? The Government is more worried about taxes and helping some country god knows where with their debt and not following the major issues in their own back yard. The man just needs to step up and say "this has gone to far".


You do know that the President doesn't make the laws, Right:dontknow: That's Congresses Job.

[patman]

Our liberal friends seem to be absent from this thread....hhuuummmm:dontknow:

patman

[Sean124]

Our liberal friends seem to be absent from this thread....hhuuummmm:dontknow:

patman

Don't really have an opinion on this one. It seems like the right move for austrailia but given our substatially larger population of imagrants i think it would be a tough call here. That would almost have to universally apply to everyone in the country and the Orthodox religions would be pushed out.

[patman]

Don't really have an opinion on this one. It seems like the right move for austrailia but given our substatially larger population of imagrants i think it would be a tough call here. That would almost have to universally apply to everyone in the country and the Orthodox religions would be pushed out.

Why? I personally don't know anyone that doesn't feel like there religion is greater than the laws of the land. They may not agree with all of them, but they still obey them.

patman

[BB71Mopar]

You do know that the President doesn't make the laws, Right:dontknow: That's Congresses Job.
Yes I do know that but the president is suspose to review and approve/disapprove every thing that happens as far as laws, statutes, or for the well being of the United States.

[BB71Mopar]

I am not saying kick all religions out I am just saying if you dont like the way things are go to another country and make it harder for others to illegally migrate.

[Sean124]

Why? I personally don't know anyone that doesn't feel like there religion is greater than the laws of the land. They may not agree with all of them, but they still obey them.

patman

Wow i can think of more then a few incidnets of child welfare issues when Orthodox Religions priests included interfered in the healthcare of a child and I am not talking vacinations here i am talking about emergency medical care. there is a gray fuzzy area between belifes and health welfare protection.

[patman]

Wow i can think of more then a few incidnets of child welfare issues when Orthodox Religions priests included interfered in the healthcare of a child and I am not talking vacinations here i am talking about emergency medical care. there is a gray fuzzy area between belifes and health welfare protection.

Ok, so kick those guys out. Austrailia isn't kicking out all muslims, just the ones that can live by the rules. Same here. If those preists can't live by the rules, out they go.

But also, I don't care who told me that I shouldn't seek medical care for my child, if he's sick I'm taking him to the hospital. Shame on the parents of those children for listening to a crack pot.

And last but not least. Your point doesn't even address the same issue as the article! It had to do with the laws of the land, not the medical treatment of people....

patman

[Sean124]

Ok, so kick those guys out. Austrailia isn't kicking out all muslims, just the ones that can live by the rules. Same here. If those preists can't live by the rules, out they go.

But also, I don't care who told me that I shouldn't seek medical care for my child, if he's sick I'm taking him to the hospital. Shame on the parents of those children for listening to a crack pot.

And last but not least. Your point doesn't even address the same issue as the article! It had to do with the laws of the land, not the medical treatment of people....

patman

We have child welfare laws that require children get medical attention etc. That was my point and it will be a larger group then you think not just muslims. I am personally all for the religious extremists being tossed out like a bad bushell of apples. And yes they don't all live by the laws of the land.

[patman]

... I am personally all for the religious extremists being tossed out like a bad bushell of apples. And yes they don't all live by the laws of the land.

Sounds like we are saying the samething....

patman

[Belowme]

You do know that the President doesn't make the laws, Right:dontknow: That's Congresses Job.
LMAO...and bush went through congress to get those pesky wiretaps? get real!

[Belowme]

Why? I personally don't know anyone that doesn't feel like there religion is greater than the laws of the land. They may not agree with all of them, but they still obey them.

patman

are you kidding here? the christians in this country bombard the constitution with their bullshit on a daily...even being as ignorant as saying as there is 'no separation between church and state' (aka boob job...er Kathrine Harris).

[Ortontucky Terror]

i agree with you on that, the seperation between church and state is not as big as you think even though some people like you to believe different. im mean seriously look who we have in office, do you remember all those billboards on 94 during the last re elcection campaign? seperation between church and state my ass.

[flight434]

not to be a smart ass, but we all need to write our congressmen and women, or senator etc. on these types of issues, I do on a fairly regular basis, mostly on firearms issues, they often e-mail me back!!! let 'em know you believe in what australia is doing could be a good thing for america too. I cringe at the thought that we are losing our personal liberties daily, that our people fought and gave up their lives for us to have, and to be soverign individuals. we're giving up freedoms to be free??? that's bullshit!! there should not be under any sercumstances, any compromises when it come to the God givin right of freedom, don't settle for it period! send the fucker's packin if it does'nt penatrate the turban!

[97blksvt]

For being straight out like that, is probally why they dont have much trouble over there and havnt been to war

[Ortontucky Terror]

uhh does anyone know how opressed the aboriginis are in austraila....?

[postban]

uhh does anyone know how opressed the aboriginis are in austraila....?

and all the FORMER gunowners.... FUCK australia and their socialist gun confiscation policies.

[patman]

are you kidding here? the christians in this country bombard the constitution with their bullshit on a daily...even being as ignorant as saying as there is 'no separation between church and state' (aka boob job...er Kathrine Harris).

read what I said. You are talking about a minority on Christians. And if they won't live by the law then out they go. But even most of the Christians that talk about church and state still live by the laws of the land just like you and I.

patman