Wet/Fogger kit on a 4.6 mod motor.

[kovacs32]

So I finally decided to get my wet kit out of the addic, that i baught a few years ago and start installing it for next year. so far I have ran the line from my trunk, through the uniframe, along the pinch welds with the fuel lines zip tied every 6 inches or so then up into the passenger front fender into the engine bay to the solenoids i mounted on the shock tower. I drilled a hole in my BBK CAI rubber connecting peice that connect at the trottle body and installed the nozzle about 1 inch from the throttle body, will it be okay mounted through the rubber?? Also, I need to know where i can order jets for the nitrous and fuel for me to run a 50 shot, 75, and 100? and also I am going to run a fuel pressure safety switch and rpm window switch to keep everything as safe as possible, is there any other precautions i need to take? Also i need to know where i can find a complete wiring diagram online to wire all the relays and switches up? I dont plan on getting too crazy, just running a 50 or 75, maybe 100 if i can afford the dyno tune. I will try to get pics up tomarow or somthin.

thank you,
Ryan

[kovacs32]

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=3417982#post3417982

does that look like what i should follow?

[team_southside]

go to www.mach1registry.com and go in the message forums and PM the screen name "Roy" he is a friend of mine. He has tried several different nitrous systems on his 4v 4.6 and has alot of good advice.

[mystang]

finally using the one you bought off John huh? :lol: I sold that to him, he was gonna throw it on his Ranger. :peelout:

[MxRacerCam]

you can safely run 125 after your tune. depending on what brand of nozzle you're running, you should be able to get jets from summit or jegs.

mounting on the silicone coupler should be ok as long as you used some sort of loctite.

i'd be sure to run a WOT switch as well... there's a place called jimmy jams that makes a pretty nice one that bolts right to the throttle body.

wiring should be pretty straightforward. have fun!

[CMYZ28]

1 vote for cracking the plastic intake, who's with me? lol

[MxRacerCam]

1 vote for cracking the plastic intake, who's with me? lol


i sprayed mine a bunch last summer with 125. shouldn't be a problem. though i can't be held responsible for installer error. :icon_mrgr

[mystang]

i sprayed mine a bunch last summer with 125. shouldn't be a problem. though i can't be held responsible for installer error. :icon_mrgr
:lol:

[CMYZ28]

i sprayed mine a bunch last summer with 125. shouldn't be a problem. though i can't be held responsible for installer error. :icon_mrgr

Ever flip a coin? lol

[kovacs32]

thanks guys, MX, where is this jimmy jams place and about how much do thse custom WOT switches cost? i have the universal one that came with the kit that i could probably bend to hell to make work? anyway About how much would a dyno tune cost me? and Yes, i know the plastic intakes can kaboom pretty easy, but i guess id have to get a metal intake regardless so why not try it out with the plastic?? anyway, how necessary is a bottle warmer? Im going to work on it for a little bit, i will take some pics and post later.

thanks,
ryan

[MxRacerCam]

thanks guys, MX, where is this jimmy jams place and about how much do thse custom WOT switches cost? i have the universal one that came with the kit that i could probably bend to hell to make work? anyway About how much would a dyno tune cost me? and Yes, i know the plastic intakes can kaboom pretty easy, but i guess id have to get a metal intake regardless so why not try it out with the plastic?? anyway, how necessary is a bottle warmer? Im going to work on it for a little bit, i will take some pics and post later.

thanks,
ryan


jimmy jams is an online place. http://www.jimmy-jams.com switch is like $30 and well worth it.

dyno tunes run around $500-700 depending on where you go. you can also get a canned tune if you plan on doing major changes later.

i wouldn't worry about the plastic intake as long as you're being smart. they only have problems if you have a backfire. this is why i ran a manual pushbutton on my shift knob. that way i could stop the nitrous while still under throttle to keep puddling to a minimum and backfires nonexistent.

bottle warmers are a very, very good idea. if you're spraying in anything less than really warm weather, you're going to lose bottle pressure. low bottle pressure means running fat, which means less hp.

[kovacs32]

heres a few pics of what i got done so far. i have almost everything done except for the wiring, im waiting on money to order a fuel pressure switch, and window switch. Anyway in the one pic is all i have as far as wires and relays go, shouldnt there be more?:dontknow:

thanks,
ryan

[kovacs32]

more pics

[kovacs32]

jimmy jams is an online place. http://www.jimmy-jams.com switch is like $30 and well worth it.

dyno tunes run around $500-700 depending on where you go. you can also get a canned tune if you plan on doing major changes later.

i wouldn't worry about the plastic intake as long as you're being smart. they only have problems if you have a backfire. this is why i ran a manual pushbutton on my shift knob. that way i could stop the nitrous while still under throttle to keep puddling to a minimum and backfires nonexistent.

bottle warmers are a very, very good idea. if you're spraying in anything less than really warm weather, you're going to lose bottle pressure. low bottle pressure means running fat, which means less hp.

Thanks for the info bud! got any pics of your setup??

[MxRacerCam]

Thanks for the info bud! got any pics of your setup??


yuppers....


http://www.msu.edu/~camero52/car123.jpg

http://www.msu.edu/~camero52/car113.jpg

[kovacs32]

thanks for the pics! looks awesome! i take it you ran your nitrous nozzle through a plate setup?

[MxRacerCam]

yeah, i ran it through a upr spacer. i like putting it there that way it's below all the runners... less puddling.

[97blksvt]

whats this thats not hidden people can see it, what kinda shot you spraying in that bitch. Should have seen my old setup I never sprayed you couldnt see one think casper302 seen the setup

[97blksvt]

yeah, i ran it through a upr spacer. i like putting it there that way it's below all the runners... less puddling.


It really shouldnt puddle up if your at WOT, when you let off it might a little bit from whats left flowing out the line unless you get a backfire id think your fine unless your running the plastic intake.

[MxRacerCam]

It really shouldnt puddle up if your at WOT, when you let off it might a little bit from whats left flowing out the line unless you get a backfire id think your fine unless your running the plastic intake.

which the PI cars do (have a plastic intake). so any puddling can be bad news. i had a hidden setup for a while, but i'm not much of a street racer so i'd rather be safe than hidden. lol.

[MotorCityNova572]

One thing to remember

ALWAYS remember to fill you'r bottle if you want to use it!!!..

COUGH dave COUGH!

[MxRacerCam]

One thing to remember

ALWAYS remember to fill you'r bottle if you want to use it!!!..

COUGH dave COUGH!


actually, a better reminder would be to make sure all your fittings are good and tight, lest you be made fun of by people with small peckers.

[kovacs32]

so does anyone have any info on the wiring, and the pic of the stuf i got with the kit? I only have one relay??

[MxRacerCam]

you really only need one relay unless you're using a remote bottle opener and/or a heater. i can draw you up a diagram, but it won't be until tomorrow night

[kovacs32]

you really only need one relay unless you're using a remote bottle opener and/or a heater. i can draw you up a diagram, but it won't be until tomorrow night

Sweet, yeah when you get time if you could do that i would really appreciate it alot. Right now i dont plan on a bottle warmer, just a window switch and fuel pressure safty, and maybe a purge if i can find a decent deal.

thanks again,
Ryan :peelout:

[97blksvt]

this is a online manual for a 4v but will work for you some of the wires might be in a diffrent spot in by your throtle body but you might not be running a micro switch

http://www.holley.com/data/Products/Technical/199R10328.pdf

electrical part starts on page 16 showing a wiring diagram for relays solinoids etc..... its really easy

[kovacs32]

this is a online manual for a 4v but will work for you some of the wires might be in a diffrent spot in by your throtle body but you might not be running a micro switch

http://www.holley.com/data/Products/Technical/199R10328.pdf

electrical part starts on page 16 showing a wiring diagram for relays solinoids etc..... its really easy


Awesome, thanks alot for that one! really helps. I have a MSD window switch on its way from a member on here (bluhawk) that should be here by sat. all i need now is a fuel press. switch and fill the bottle and if the weather is still in the 50's I'll try it out :peelout: BTW, how necessary is a purge kit? i dont know if i wanna drop over $100 on that right now...

[MxRacerCam]

BTW, how necessary is a purge kit? i dont know if i wanna drop over $100 on that right now...


without a purge kit, you'll have a delayed response when you hit the button (and you'll also run really fat during that delay as the fuel solenoid will be pumping fuel in with no nitrous).

the net effect will be slow-slower-fast. lol.

it's a good investment. you can find them for $50-75 if you look around.

[kovacs32]

without a purge kit, you'll have a delayed response when you hit the button (and you'll also run really fat during that delay as the fuel solenoid will be pumping fuel in with no nitrous).

the net effect will be slow-slower-fast. lol.

it's a good investment. you can find them for $50-75 if you look around.

I will probably do that then, I can use any brand purge even though my setup is NOS right?

[MxRacerCam]

I will probably do that then, I can use any brand purge even though my setup is NOS right?


pretty much, just make sure it's the right size to match your lines (i.e. either -4 or -6)

[kovacs32]

So how addicting will a 75 shot be??

[MxRacerCam]

So how addicting will a 75 shot be??


you might as well buy larger jets now. :icon_mrgr

[kovacs32]

you might as well buy larger jets now. :icon_mrgr


which reminds me, I have no idea what jets are in my kit right now so where i can i buy some 50-75-100-125 jets and how much?

[MxRacerCam]

which reminds me, I have no idea what jets are in my kit right now so where i can i buy some 50-75-100-125 jets and how much?


depending on what brand of nozzle you're running, you should be able to get jets from summit or jegs.


:dontknow: :icon_mrgr

[kovacs32]

Thanks everyone for all the help and info, stay tuned for more questions! BTW, i repped everyone i could who helped me!

thanks!
Kovacs

[kovacs32]

Got a quick question already. What wire do i tap into for a rpm signal for my window switch? i have a ford schematics book and i dont see any tach wires, i see ignition coil wires, what should i tap into? also, where did you guys mount your relays,window switch? thanks!

[kovacs32]

Look at this picture, i just need to know where i will be wiring in my window switch and fuel pressure safty? will it be to the BLUE wire that goes to the solenoids?

thanks!

[MxRacerCam]

Look at this picture, i just need to know where i will be wiring in my window switch and fuel pressure safty? will it be to the BLUE wire that goes to the solenoids?

thanks!


you'll want to put them before the relay, not after. as for where to pick up the rpm signal, you'll need a tach driver for that, iirc. summit/jegs sells them.

[kovacs32]

so where at before the relay would i wire them? to the micro switch ground?

[MxRacerCam]

so where at before the relay would i wire them? to the micro switch ground?


i think the window switch has pretty specific instructions on where it goes. i've never installed one though. i think larry knows more.

[kovacs32]

so do i have to buya tach adapter for my window switch?

[MxRacerCam]

as far as i know. which switch is it?

[kovacs32]

So im getting closer to being done. I got my fuel pressure safety switch, its a NX unit i got off ebay. So are these things just set to 35psi to cut out or what?

thanks

[kovacs32]

anybody know???

[97blksvt]

anybody know???


I beleve so, you should be able to put it on and be set, I think they make adjustable ones for like 35-15psi or somthing, not sure how to adjust.

[kovacs32]

What plugs should i be running with this setup?

[97blksvt]

I dont remember what stock is but id go with a ngk, 1 step colder then stock

[kovacs32]

Okay so i have got everything installed except for purge which i will have shortly. All i have left to do is get a set of plugs and some jets for a 50 shot...can anyone give me some part numbers or where to pick these things up? I think im going to try it out a 50 shot on it as soon as i get the rest of the stuff. then save up some money and take it somewhere and get it dynotuned for a 100 shot.

thanks,
ryan

[97blksvt]

Not sure on the plugs but summit for the jets they have them and i know they got the plugs just not sure what part fo the pag I found them.

[97blksvt]

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=jets&N=700+115+4294919443&Ntk=KeywordSearch

you gotta figure witch size you want

[97blksvt]

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=mustang+plugs&N=700+4294842813+4294840044+4294907673+115&Nao=20&Ntk=KeywordSearch#rstop

figure out what ones youd need

[kovacs32]

thanks +1 for the help. I just need to figure out what jets equal a wet 50 shot