Would you pay 400 bucks for one of these?

[foncarelli]

http://www.bggperformance.com/images/procharge123r.gif

[88ls1blazer]

8 or 10 rib conversion?

[foncarelli]

8 or 10 rib conversion?


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[88ls1blazer]

doesnt procharger make a 10 rib kit for about that much? if i were going to spend the money id do 10 or cog, just my opinion

[foncarelli]

doesnt procharger make a 10 rib kit for about that much? if i were going to spend the money id do 10 or cog, just my opinion


I didnt know they made a cog kit. You got a link to a website that makes one?

[88ls1blazer]

IIRC procharger does, i swear i remember ordering one for an 00 gt w/ an d1sc years ago, ill try to get ahold of them

[foncarelli]

IIRC procharger does, i swear i remember ordering one for an 00 gt w/ an d1sc years ago, ill try to get ahold of them


Please do.

I thought only the F1 was set up for the cog system.

[chief]

Procharger will put a cog on any of their setups. friend has it on a base model

[foncarelli]

Procharger will put a cog on any of their setups. friend has it on a base model


Any idea of how much of an improvement it made?

[Sean124]

A Cog Foncarelli I beilive is to much exspense and hassle. I have a guy that hangs around the shop that did the 8 rib swap I will ask him where he got the parts. Do you work for FORD??? If so i might just be able to get you the part #'s for the pulleys and you can save a ton of money.

[foncarelli]

A Cog Foncarelli I beilive is to much exspense and hassle. I have a guy that hangs around the shop that did the 8 rib swap I will ask him where he got the parts. Do you work for FORD??? If so i might just be able to get you the part #'s for the pulleys and you can save a ton of money.


Yep

[88ls1blazer]

hey, what head unit do you have? actually, get me the serial number off of the blower and that'll let me be able to get pricing

[Sean124]

Yep

I will see what i can do on the part numbers.

[foncarelli]

hey, what head unit do you have? actually, get me the serial number off of the blower and that'll let me be able to get pricing


P1SC. I can get the numbers off of it tomorrow.

[foncarelli]

I will see what i can do on the part numbers.


Cool.

[Got9lbs]

i bought one kit from him and then made one of my own its not all that easy but its not impossible. alot of putting the blower on then taking it back off.

[STOCK GT]

i bought one kit from him and then made one of my own its not all that easy but its not impossible. alot of putting the blower on then taking it back off.

I did the Same, Cost me about $50

[GPowrie]

Here are most of the Ford part numbers, the rest can be looked up by any Ford dealer. The are standard parts for the 97+ F150.

Damper XL1Z-6312-DA
Tensioner 1L3Z-6B209-AA
AC Pulley F7UZ-19D784-AA
2L3Z-3A733-AB
F6TZ-8509-AA
2L3Z-3A733-AB
F65Z-10344-AA

The last four number there should be the rest of the pulleys needed but the discription on the box just says pulley. Depending on your setup you may need to buy 2 of the tensioner assemblys, but you will only use the pulleys off of them. Then you need to space the bracket of off the front cover .280", Vortech sells the spacers for that. The tensioner will need to be spaced off of the front cover .140". Then you need the proper size blower pulley for the blower speed needed, you can buy them from Procharger, Vortech, and many other companys. I know some stuff needs to be done differently from car to car depending on the the kit used and the year of the front cover. My car is a 98 Cobra with a Vortech T-trim. I had to make a spacer to space the ideler of of the front cover(I don't remember the thickness). I also had to do some machining to the Vortech bracket and make spacers for the the Vortech ideler as it was not properly aligned. I decided to use an Inovators West 8" damper instead of the f-150 part to get more belt wrap and get the blower speed where I wanted it. Another problem I just had today with the setup, is that the blower pulley is partialy overlaping the alternator case and sits very close(mabee .010 off of it). When the blower was under load today on the dyno, it actualy pulled the pulley in to the alternator causing the belt to break. I am not sure if the Procharger sits that close to the alternator or not. It will be fixed tomorrow and hopfully it will hold. It was making 18-19lbs at 5500rpm with the rubbing before braking. In the end GI Joes kit is a fair price but you can piece it togeather for less than he charges.

By the way I was the one Sean was going to get the part numbers from, so if you have any questions PM or call him. I will actualy be at his shop all day tomorrow.

[foncarelli]

Here are most of the Ford part numbers, the rest can be looked up by any Ford dealer. The are standard parts for the 97+ F150.

Damper XL1Z-6312-DA
Tensioner 1L3Z-6B209-AA
AC Pulley F7UZ-19D784-AA
2L3Z-3A733-AB
F6TZ-8509-AA
2L3Z-3A733-AB
F65Z-10344-AA

The last four number there should be the rest of the pulleys needed but the discription on the box just says pulley. Depending on your setup you may need to buy 2 of the tensioner assemblys, but you will only use the pulleys off of them. Then you need to space the bracket of off the front cover .280", Vortech sells the spacers for that. The tensioner will need to be spaced off of the front cover .140". Then you need the proper size blower pulley for the blower speed needed, you can buy them from Procharger, Vortech, and many other companys. I know some stuff needs to be done differently from car to car depending on the the kit used and the year of the front cover. My car is a 98 Cobra with a Vortech T-trim. I had to make a spacer to space the ideler of of the front cover(I don't remember the thickness). I also had to do some machining to the Vortech bracket and make spacers for the the Vortech ideler as it was not properly aligned. I decided to use an Inovators West 8" damper instead of the f-150 part to get more belt wrap and get the blower speed where I wanted it. Another problem I just had today with the setup, is that the blower pulley is partialy overlaping the alternator case and sits very close(mabee .010 off of it). When the blower was under load today on the dyno, it actualy pulled the pulley in to the alternator causing the belt to break. I am not sure if the Procharger sits that close to the alternator or not. It will be fixed tomorrow and hopfully it will hold. It was making 18-19lbs at 5500rpm with the rubbing before braking. In the end GI Joes kit is a fair price but you can piece it togeather for less than he charges.

By the way I was the one Sean was going to get the part numbers from, so if you have any questions PM or call him. I will actualy be at his shop all day tomorrow.


Good stuff and thanks.

[chief]

Fonc, Sorry for the delay. I personally don't it made much improvements other then show. It's not pushing very high boost so I feel it's more drag on everything then power. If the belts not slipping then save the money and go with the different pulley setups or add another tensioner(idler) to control belt slop

[foncarelli]

Thanks fellas. I just dont want to spend another summer fucking with belt problems. I want to max out my procharger and hope my trans hold up.

[2L8IWIN]

I tried to do it...

then i ended up putting a turbo on the car...lol

[foncarelli]

I tried to do it...

then i ended up putting a turbo on the car...lol

I would love to go that route but i am not dropping any more serious loot into this car.

[97blksvt]

I didnt know they made a cog kit. You got a link to a website that makes one?


yes accufab does for around 3k

[97blksvt]

I beleve you just use f150 pulleys

[Sean124]

If you check the PUB I am pretty sure we have resolved the Belt slippage issue with a better quality NAPA tensioner and a Gates belt with improved clearnace between the alternator and the blower drive pulley. Made around 20psi or so today with no signs of belt trouble.

http://www.motownmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40645

Making some kickass power.

[STOCK GT]

If you still need a 8 rib Setup i got one...
pm me.

[foncarelli]

Holy old thread. Its running like a champ now.

Thanks again, Sean.

[WhiteHawk]

There was a place that made all new brackets and tensioners for the LS1, maybe they make Ford stuff too. Something like SD concepts or something?

I personally think cogs are a little extreme for the street. They key is to get the 8-rib and make sure everything is perfectly lined up. You might have to do some custom shimming and milling. Torxilla had a place in Indiana do it with a CMM, and hasn't had a problem yet.

-Geoff