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ShadowRuleZ
01-29-2007, 11:58 AM
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/10868801/detail.html

Anyone know the laws for homeowners in Michigan?

slb351
01-29-2007, 12:06 PM
I just read that. Good for that homeowner protecting his home.

Dr. Teeth
01-29-2007, 12:18 PM
He'll get sued though. Guaranteed...

WhiteHawk
01-29-2007, 12:22 PM
That's just great! That was two blocks from my house! I think I will move the 9 mm to the bedroom and the 22 by the door (it is visa versa right now).

If they try busting that guy, I will be throwing in cash for his legal fees. Get him Feiger or something.

-Geoff

86CamaroZ28
01-29-2007, 12:29 PM
That's just great! That was two blocks from my house! I think I will move the 9 mm to the bedroom and the 22 by the door (it is visa versa right now).
-Geoff

:eek: damn, thats scary.

i love how pontiac's turning into detroit. makes me feel safe living like 10 mi. away :rolleyes:. time to move :lol:

Foolsgold80z
01-29-2007, 12:35 PM
There's been a crew doing in this in Pontiac for a couple weeks now.
Same m.o., kick in a door, dressed in black, ski masks, etc.
Hopefully it's the same dirtbags, I'm betting it is.

CMYZ28
01-29-2007, 12:36 PM
Didn't u guys see the new law granholm had passed right before election time??


Armed citizens who shoot in self-defense would gain legal protection from civil lawsuits and criminal charges under six bills signed Thursday by Gov. Jennifer Granholm.

The bill-signings produced barbs between Granholm and a Republican senator who backed the bills.

The legislation, promoted by gun-rights activists, clarifies when a person can use deadly force in self-defense during break-ins, carjackings and other potentially violent crimes -- even in incidents away from the person's home.

Local prosecutors still could bring criminal charges if they believe someone was wrongly shot in the name of self-defense. But convictions will be very difficult, said Sen. Alan Cropsey, R-DeWitt, a leading advocate for the new laws.

"This gives the homeowner and people who use firearms to protect themselves an added measure of security against the criminal element," Cropsey said.

While Cropsey praised Granholm for signing the bills, he accused her of acting out of election-year politics rather than personal support.

"Her natural constituency is the antigun crowd," he said of Granholm. "She knows the polling data supporting this is so high, she'd be nuts to veto it."

Granholm's spokeswoman, Liz Boyd, said Granholm forced changes in the bill, such as protecting victims of domestic assault and allowing prosecutors to investigate self-defense shootings.

"If Sen. Cropsey is looking for examples of election-year politics, he has plenty in his own party," Boyd said. She said GOP lawmakers have stalled Granholm's plan to expand the popular Merit Award Scholarship because it would be a political win for her.

The self-defense bills make it clear that a law-abiding person who's attacked -- or believes a violent attack is imminent -- is not required to attempt to flee before using deadly force.

The laws expands where a homeowner is allowed to use deadly force in self-defense from inside their house to garages, barns and yards. It also shields those who shoot in self-defense from costly lawsuits by their wounded attackers or their families.

Opponents of the bills argued that existing common law allows people to defend themselves and others from violent attacks, and that the bills would lead to vigilante justice.

Ottawa County Prosecutor Ron Frantz, president of the Prosecuting Attorneys Association of Michigan, praised the changes.

"We don't want murderers falsely using self-defense claims without being subject to the scrutiny of prosecutors and juries," Frantz said.

91trunk
01-29-2007, 01:16 PM
So mole face did something right? :mmm: I guess I have blown away in 5 years :lol:

86CamaroZ28
01-29-2007, 01:25 PM
So mole face did something right? :mmm: I guess I have blown away in 5 years :lol:

im kindof speachless myself. :laugh:

91trunk
01-29-2007, 01:53 PM
im kindof speachless myself. :laugh:

I wonder if she attached another bill along with it?

CMYZ28
01-29-2007, 01:56 PM
I wonder if she attached another bill along with it?

Not sure on that. Like i said, i remember it happened not too long before re-election time.

http://www.motownmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30407&highlight=ccw+owners

Golden
01-29-2007, 02:55 PM
If someone broke in my house, they'd have a warning to turn back, or be shot.

Fro
01-29-2007, 03:13 PM
if someone broke in here, id shoot to kill only if i saw a weapon, otherwise, fun with MACE

Golden
01-29-2007, 03:14 PM
if someone broke in here, id shoot to kill only if i saw a weapon, otherwise, fun with MACE

it is very easy to conceal a pistol, let alone in the dark. It would be hard to tell if the person had a weapon or not.


I'd give someone my fist in their face before I mased them lol

wikdsvt
01-29-2007, 03:15 PM
that's why I have a dog ---- intimidation factor.

plus with the scope on my 30-06, I can drop them about 1/4 mile away no problem.

(then I'd have to drag their body back INTO the house)... too much of a PITA. I'd let the dog have them.

Fro
01-29-2007, 03:19 PM
it is very easy to conceal a pistol, let alone in the dark. It would be hard to tell if the person had a weapon or not.


I'd give someone my fist in their face before I mased them lol

remember, i, like MacGyver, am a former boyscout, give me a red plastic bag, a film tube, and a paper clip, and ill give you thermal goggles

L98Terror
01-29-2007, 04:43 PM
If someone broke in my house, they'd have a warning to turn back, or be shot.
In my house there is no warning, just like GRAW line up them up and double tap.

CMYZ28
01-29-2007, 04:49 PM
Everyone in my house knows not to mess around when no one is home/or if i call your name and u don't answer. If I see you, and don't know you, i'll be calling for new carpet the next day..

igotaneed4speed
01-29-2007, 05:51 PM
Good for him i hope the pos he shot dies...

Then maybe his fuck stick friends that were with him decide to get thier shit together..

Golden
01-29-2007, 06:07 PM
A dude I work with almost had to use his glock. He had it drawn...but the cops finally got there before the guy kicked in the door. Not sure how the door held long enough.

Dr. Teeth
01-29-2007, 06:34 PM
Good for him i hope the pos he shot dies...

Then maybe his fuck stick friends that were with him decide to get thier shit together..


Nope, they'll be back to "bussa cap his ass" and maybe then he can double tap their asses too.

Double Tap for the MFW.

91Notch
01-29-2007, 09:01 PM
good for the home owner

Foolsgold80z
01-29-2007, 09:46 PM
You kick on my door you better be yelling POLICE and flashing badges high
and bright 'cause I'm dropping some motherfuckers.

Dr. Teeth
01-29-2007, 10:05 PM
You kick on my door you better be yelling POLICE and flashing badges high
and bright 'cause I'm dropping some motherfuckers.


:badass:

ZR2_S10
01-29-2007, 10:23 PM
I hope that I don't ever have to experience that, but keep the .40 Federal Hydra-Shok JHP http://www.federalcartridge.com/ballistics/images/Bullets_Img/hydra-shok-big.jpg
Ready to go.

90_Notch
01-29-2007, 11:03 PM
EDIT

CMYZ28
beat me to it