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Line Noise
04-02-2007, 12:41 PM
Caddy 4.9
I must stay with the stock ECM as it controls the tranny and a seperate Tranny controller or a non E tranny would eat my budget up quickly.
Issues.
1. No Knock sensor on my motor, what do I need to add one? any reocmmendations?
2. Could I just use an MSD Timing retard system to pull timing when under being inducted?
3. Fuel Mgmt under 5PSI do I really need to worry about it?
Sean124
04-02-2007, 04:02 PM
Do not do it. Headgaskets barely hold at stock power levels. There maybe software out there for the box from www.tunercat.com (http://www.tunercat.com) or we might be able to hack it out.
Sean
Line Noise
04-02-2007, 08:38 PM
Do not do it. Headgaskets barely hold at stock power levels. There maybe software out there for the box from www.tunercat.com (http://www.tunercat.com) or we might be able to hack it out.
Sean
I've seen the 4.9 turbo'd and running 8 Psi and it has damn near 1000 1/4 mile passes. 4 trannies, nothing done to the motor since (other than head work to decrease compression), I have a full write up how he did it, however he used a diffrent ecm which won't control the tranny so.
He was running 11.5 -12.20 I have video somewhere.
Sean124
04-02-2007, 11:45 PM
I think you could use the stock Box whats the part number ????
Sean
I've seen the 4.9 turbo'd and running 8 Psi and it has damn near 1000 1/4 mile passes. 4 trannies, nothing done to the motor since (other than head work to decrease compression), I have a full write up how he did it, however he used a diffrent ecm which won't control the tranny so.
He was running 11.5 -12.20 I have video somewhere.
Line Noise
04-03-2007, 01:39 PM
I think you could use the stock Box whats the part number ????
Sean
No fuggin clue caddilac 4.9 from 93 deville
97blksvt
04-03-2007, 09:38 PM
a custom tune would be the best if you ask me
Sean124
04-03-2007, 11:41 PM
Get me a part number off the box.
Sean
No fuggin clue caddilac 4.9 from 93 deville
Line Noise
04-04-2007, 01:35 PM
Get me a part number off the box.
Sean
Ok gonna be a few days just had surgery and the arms still sore.
Line Noise
04-15-2007, 11:58 AM
Get me a part number off the box.
Sean
Hey Sean sorry for the delay anyways I'm using a 2240 PCM, The Chip has been reprogrammed already, however the guy who did it will reprogram for a diffrent tune upon request.
One option would be to use a 749 PCM, which is the Syclone 2 Bar Map, It's been tried on the 4.9 and they didn't have much luck RPM Surge. I don't think the 749 has the ability to control a E Tranny so here's my current thinking.
ECU/4.9/4T60E (2240 PCM)
Shift Kit for 4T60E (2 Choices B&M, or Transgo) Leaning towards B&M
Additional injector controller (any recommendations?)
Crane ignition with 2 bar map and boost retard
HX40 Holset turbo with 6psi wastegate (adjusted to 5psi)
Bosch pop off valve on the intake side.
Knock Sensor (Autozone part number SU1128 $35)
Alcohol Injection
Possibly Inter cooler (mounting / location will require some engineering)
Sean124
04-18-2007, 07:10 PM
749 is not E tranny friendly or capable. I will need that prom to snag a copy of the prom if you can bring the PCM over here I can read it right off.. However there is an older 4t60 thm440 that is non electronic that will bolt in.
Sean
Hey Sean sorry for the delay anyways I'm using a 2240 PCM, The Chip has been reprogrammed already, however the guy who did it will reprogram for a diffrent tune upon request.
One option would be to use a 749 PCM, which is the Syclone 2 Bar Map, It's been tried on the 4.9 and they didn't have much luck RPM Surge. I don't think the 749 has the ability to control a E Tranny so here's my current thinking.
ECU/4.9/4T60E (2240 PCM)
Shift Kit for 4T60E (2 Choices B&M, or Transgo) Leaning towards B&M
Additional injector controller (any recommendations?)
Crane ignition with 2 bar map and boost retard
HX40 Holset turbo with 6psi wastegate (adjusted to 5psi)
Bosch pop off valve on the intake side.
Knock Sensor (Autozone part number SU1128 $35)
Alcohol Injection
Possibly Inter cooler (mounting / location will require some engineering)
Line Noise
04-19-2007, 09:32 PM
749 is not E tranny friendly or capable. I will need that prom to snag a copy of the prom if you can bring the PCM over here I can read it right off.. However there is an older 4t60 thm440 that is non electronic that will bolt in.
Sean
I've really though about going that route. If I do go from -E to non E tranny I'll most likely go 4T80 as it's stronger. Heavier but stronger. Right now I'm still thinking how I want to do it. get a budget together and start acquiring parts, maybe use this winter to build it :D
Sean124
04-25-2007, 08:46 PM
If your going that far just drop a Northstar in it and Be done.
Sean
I've really though about going that route. If I do go from -E to non E tranny I'll most likely go 4T80 as it's stronger. Heavier but stronger. Right now I'm still thinking how I want to do it. get a budget together and start acquiring parts, maybe use this winter to build it :D
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