Mustang torque boxes

[Speedy]

What is the best way to do them? Any good sites on different ways of doing them. I want to go with through the floor sub-frame connectors too. Heard something about running the SFC into the torque box but not sure.

Thanks

Mike

[hangemhigh]

threw you out of work early again huh? lol.

[Pwraddr]

come look at mine!!!

[Speedy]

threw you out of work early again huh? lol.

LOL I left on my own today. Only 49.5 this week. I can buy some spark plugs now lol


come look at mine!!!

This weekend? I'll bring $$$ :D

[cobrarwanab]

Battle Boxes provide an excellent base for other frame-stiffening components such as subframe connectors and rollcages. You can route your cage’s rear bars to connect to the upper support of the Battle Boxes. The Battle Boxes will go a long way in ensuring that you’re prepared. "Its hip 2 b square"!

Here is a link that might be helpful?
http://www.mustang50magazine.com/howto/35618_wild_rides_battle_boxes/index.html

[soap]

I put a set of these in and they are holding up great....

http://www.umiperformance.com/products.php?category_id=3

--Joe

[Speedy]

Thanks, I for got about UMI I have the uppers and lowers on my GN

Battle Boxes provide an excellent base for other frame-stiffening components such as subframe connectors and rollcages. You can route your cage’s rear bars to connect to the upper support of the Battle Boxes. The Battle Boxes will go a long way in ensuring that you’re prepared. "Its hip 2 b square"!

Here is a link that might be helpful?
http://www.mustang50magazine.com/how...xes/index.html

Thanks!

[Interseptor]

What is the best way to do them? Any good sites on different ways of doing them. I want to go with through the floor sub-frame connectors too. Heard something about running the SFC into the torque box but not sure.

Thanks

Mike

Take it to a trained professional I don't know any though ..LOL

[kovacs32]

i need to get this done on my car, im guessing i probably should just drop the $120 on the UMI kit instead of trying to take a cheaper route?

[soap]

i need to get this done on my car, im guessing i probably should just drop the $120 on the UMI kit instead of trying to take a cheaper route?

The only cheaper way would be to weld all around the OEM torque boxes......and that would only be cheaper if you can weld yourself.

You don't even need the reinforcement unless you drag race on a slick.

--Joe

[Speedy]

Take it to a trained professional I don't know any though ..LOL


Me either :frown:

[kovacs32]

would it be a bad idea to go with a cheaper kit on ebay? i mean for the money i dont really see why i should pay $145 for some UMI kit when i can get an identical kit for around $80, i know your going to say quality is at stake but its only pieces of steel right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1979-2004-Ford-Mustang-Upper-Lower-Torque-Box-Kits_W0QQitemZ270224379630QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 270224379630

[86 jewel]

would it be a bad idea to go with a cheaper kit on ebay? i mean for the money i dont really see why i should pay $145 for some UMI kit when i can get an identical kit for around $80, i know your going to say quality is at stake but its only pieces of steel right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1979-2004-Ford-Mustang-Upper-Lower-Torque-Box-Kits_W0QQitemZ270224379630QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 270224379630

If that guy is a good welder, and im sure he is i would say why not go the cheaper way on the steel but thats me??

[Pure84GTT]

victory racing (site sponsor) can take care of this for you and they are a umi dealer too if memory serves me

[soap]

would it be a bad idea to go with a cheaper kit on ebay? i mean for the money i dont really see why i should pay $145 for some UMI kit when i can get an identical kit for around $80, i know your going to say quality is at stake but its only pieces of steel right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1979-2004-Ford-Mustang-Upper-Lower-Torque-Box-Kits_W0QQitemZ270224379630QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 270224379630

The only issue would be if these were made with little attention to if the bolt holes line up correctly. Sure all brands are going to look the same since they all accomplish the exact same thing, but you next to no room for error when lining up the control arm holes.

The install would be a nightmare.

--Joe

[LugNutLX]

There is only 2 bolts holes that need to line up with the control arm holes and thats 1 on each side of the LCA. The rest of the holes you drill yourself its not a direct bolt on setup.

[kovacs32]

There is only 2 bolts holes that need to line up with the control arm holes and thats 1 on each side of the LCA. The rest of the holes you drill yourself its not a direct bolt on setup.

yeah i knew that, im mostly just wondering if theres a quality difference between the two interms of the strength or gauge of the steel used. I will be having the boxes all welded up, im on a tight budget trying to get my car out asap, so any buck i can save helps me get the next part. I can spent $70 to get the knock of kit or $135 for the UMI kit...

[kovacs32]

victory racing (site sponsor) can take care of this for you and they are a umi dealer too if memory serves me

what member can i pm about getting a price through victory racing?

[5.8Coupe]

what member can i pm about getting a price through victory racing?


http://www.motownmuscle.com/forums/member.php?u=1492

[orangejuiced86]

Contact PacecarBBC(todd) if you want them welded up.

[82hatch]

Reiter's Metalcraft did mine and they did a great job.

[Team Z Motorsports]

Personally I think battle boxes are fine but they were designed years ago when everyone ran southside lift bars, when we build cars we just weld the lowers up and plate the uppers and run bars to them I have bee doing it this way for over 10 years without a failure! lots of low 1.20 60' with well over 1000 hp!

[Got9lbs]

Another vote for Reiter's they did mine last week along with subframes A+ job. Thanks Todd

[nuttsgt]

If you have a welder or access to one, you can make your own "battle box" lowers. I made mine a few years ago ( before steel went through the roof). I had less than 10 bucks in them counting the grade 8 bolts.

[kovacs32]

So i got my mtltek kit today and went to put the lower boxes in place for mock up and noticed i cant slide the lower re-enforcement box up into place, theres just not enough room to do so. I read the directions and it states that in 94+ stangs that you must cut/notch the edges of the opening in order to get the boxes in place. Have any of you had to do this? Im not too thrilled to be cutting into a structural part of the car that is already weak...

[kovacs32]

i guess this is what i should do?

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme5/blue98gt/battle_boxes.htm

[soap]

So i got my mtltek kit today and went to put the lower boxes in place for mock up and noticed i cant slide the lower re-enforcement box up into place, theres just not enough room to do so. I read the directions and it states that in 94+ stangs that you must cut/notch the edges of the opening in order to get the boxes in place. Have any of you had to do this? Im not too thrilled to be cutting into a structural part of the car that is already weak...

i guess this is what i should do?

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme5/blue98gt/battle_boxes.htm

:icon_neut

That is why I said to just get the UMI kit. No cutting needed to get them in.

You don't have to worry about "cutting into a structural part of the car that is already weak" as the kit will no doubt strengthen up the torque boxes. It's just that you should not have to cut at all to get them in.

--Joe

[kovacs32]

So is it absolutely necessary to remove ALL of the sound deadening material that is under the upper plates? The is a hell of a lotta hard shit to get off, i wish thinking i could get away with just cleaning up a good inch around the border of the plate for welding?

thanks,
ryan