4.6 sohc superchargers

[b78cobra]

I'm new to Mod engines, and I am interested in boosting my 01 GT. I've been looking around (ebay, craigslist) and have seen a lot of 03-04 dohc blowers, and some new 3v superchargers as well. Some are for the 5.4 f150s. Are the lower intakes totally different on the 5.4 from the 4.6? Or the intake ports from dohc to sohc? It would be nice if some of these parts were compatable with each other.

[Sean]

Lower intakes on the 5.4 and 4.6 4v and 3v engines are totally different then the 2v 4.6 motors. I like the vortech kits. they come with a really nice blower bracket.

[4v Shane]

To do the conversion for a 03/04 blower you need the new heads... I'll stop there just go for a vortech kit made for your year GT
:thumbup:

[STOCK GT]

Dont Stop there. Supercharging or building a SOHC is a waste of time...
Go all the way and go DOHC!

[Sean]

there is supposed to be a new 2v head or the romour goes being unvieled at PRI. At least thats what I hear round the way.

Dont Stop there. Supercharging or building a SOHC is a waste of time...
Go all the way and go DOHC!

[4v Shane]

Dont Stop there. Supercharging or building a SOHC is a waste of time...
Go all the way and go DOHC!

x2

Turbo 4 Valve/Auto

[VTRauder]

there is nothing wrong with the 2v, get a centri blower (vortech, paxton, procharger) and have at it man.

[b78cobra]

Yeah I've thought about swapping engines all together. But like I said I dont know shit about them. Is the 5.4 to the 4.6 what a 351 is to a 302, like just a taller deck? Dohc blocks the same as sohc? I've been told to get 315 to the tires is good for a N/A SOHC 4.6, What kind of numbers would be expected after adding a cent. blower? I really have no plans on being the fastest guy in town so I dont want to push it too hard, just to be a little more respectable. I would like to have it run mid 12s and that would be fine with me.

[STOCK GT]

Yeah I've thought about swapping engines all together. But like I said I dont know shit about them. Is the 5.4 to the 4.6 what a 351 is to a 302, like just a taller deck? Dohc blocks the same as sohc? I've been told to get 315 to the tires is good for a N/A SOHC 4.6, What kind of numbers would be expected after adding a cent. blower? I really have no plans on being the fastest guy in town so I dont want to push it too hard, just to be a little more respectable. I would like to have it run mid 12s and that would be fine with me.


315rwhp NA in a SOHC Is a RACE MOTOR and Expensive.
Yes, the 4.6 to 5.4 is just like the 302 to 351 just more expensive.
Best bang for the Buck would be a Marauder/Mark 8 motor, they are cheap these Days. Swap out the intake and put a blower on it.
Then Theres always the 5.4 swap, but where do you stop...

[STOCK GT]

there is nothing wrong with the 2v, get a centri blower (vortech, paxton, procharger) and have at it man.

my old combo,
Forged 96 SOHC Shortblock, Ported PI heads, 10-1 CR, Longtubes/full exhaust/ Ported SVO Intake Manifold, Eliptical TB, Vortech v2 @13psi, and every Bolton you can image. 370 RWHP @6000rpm

Next combo
160k Stock Mark 8 Motor, Factory Cobra Intake/Exhaust Manifolds and Borla Catback + Vortech v2 @13 psi 550RWHP @ 6000

Next combo
Same 160k motor as above but 15-16 psi and 7200 rpm 593hp

[STOCK GT]

there is supposed to be a new 2v head or the romour goes being unvieled at PRI. At least thats what I hear round the way.


edelbrock was supposed to do something 6 years ago but there "Wasnt a Market" for a 2v Head.

And why should there be? the 4v head kills the 2v head.
Even the new Factory 3v head is way better than a set of ported 2v SVO's


Ford pre05 SOHC= FAIL

[b78cobra]

wow, i wouldnt have imagined that the dohc would be worth so much extra power. Are the mark 8 engines forged internals like the cobras? Are the roots blowers on the 03 cobras worth a shit? Its seems like a lot of people tend to sell them and buy larger ones.

[b78cobra]

it still seems like people would buy those intakes with how many sohc engines there are out there on the road, shit people buy bullit intakes for 900 bucks for what like 5 rwhp?

[VTRauder]

my old combo,
Forged 96 SOHC Shortblock, Ported PI heads, 10-1 CR, Longtubes/full exhaust/ Ported SVO Intake Manifold, Eliptical TB, Vortech v2 @13psi, and every Bolton you can image. 370 RWHP @6000rpm

Next combo
160k Stock Mark 8 Motor, Factory Cobra Intake/Exhaust Manifolds and Borla Catback + Vortech v2 @13 psi 550RWHP @ 6000

Next combo
Same 160k motor as above but 15-16 psi and 7200 rpm 593hp

every bolt on? that's strange cuz I've seen and driven a mustang at the shop that was a 2V mild cam, exhaust, Paxton Novi 2000 it ended up making 680whp. You're analogy is a bit misleading.

[STOCK GT]

every bolt on? that's strange cuz I've seen and driven a mustang at the shop that was a 2V mild cam, exhaust, Paxton Novi 2000 it ended up making 680whp. You're analogy is a bit misleading.

Its not So Much an analogy, its what my car actually put down at 2 different shops.

Well a Novi 2000 efficient boost range is what 15-25psi?
where as a Vortech is 6-12psi?
Im sure the novi was pushing more than my vortechs measly 13psi

What year 2v are you talking about? I Can Totally see an 05+ Gt w/600+ Hp Streetable but not a one of the earlier ones.

[STOCK GT]

wow, i wouldnt have imagined that the dohc would be worth so much extra power. Are the mark 8 engines forged internals like the cobras? Are the roots blowers on the 03 cobras worth a shit? Its seems like a lot of people tend to sell them and buy larger ones.


Mark 8 and pre 03 Cobra shortblock are pretty much the same except for the facxt that the Cobra has an 8 bolt Forged Crank and the mark has a 6 Bolt Cast Crank. (you arent going to break either crank so it really dont matter)

only 03+Cobra shortblock are Forged.


Im not a Fan of the 03 Roots Blower, they are good to what 500hp before they really start to kill the engine with HOT Air.

If It were Me and I had to do it all over again Id go 4v with a Turbo.
I already had a Blower So all i had to do was get a new Bracket for the vortech and Cobra discharge tube.

[VTRauder]

Its not So Much an analogy, its what my car actually put down at 2 different shops.

Well a Novi 2000 efficient boost range is what 15-25psi?
where as a Vortech is 6-12psi?
Im sure the novi was pushing more than my vortechs measly 13psi

What year 2v are you talking about? I Can Totally see an 05+ Gt w/600+ Hp Streetable but not a one of the earlier ones.

It is misleading though because a 4V will do more with a Vortech V2 blower than the 2V motor can... there are many ways to skin a cat... some ways don't work so hot. Either way the mustang was an 02 or 03 GT... an 05+ GT would have been a 3V

[4v Shane]

my old combo,
Forged 96 SOHC Shortblock, Ported PI heads, 10-1 CR, Longtubes/full exhaust/ Ported SVO Intake Manifold, Eliptical TB, Vortech v2 @13psi, and every Bolton you can image. 370 RWHP @6000rpm

Next combo
160k Stock Mark 8 Motor, Factory Cobra Intake/Exhaust Manifolds and Borla Catback + Vortech v2 @13 psi 550RWHP @ 6000

Next combo
Same 160k motor as above but 15-16 psi and 7200 rpm 593hp

What year mark VIII motor are you using?

[b78cobra]

I've seen a few early 90s mark 8 engines for less than 600 bucks, not bad.

[STOCK GT]

What year mark VIII motor are you using?


Im not using a Mark 8 Motor anymore, but when I did it was a Bastard 93 Mark 8 (worst year) I Put it in with 160k on it it lasted 20k before I took it out and tore it down for parts...

I had bought a couple of them at one point, I Paid $300 each.

the mark 8 Motors worked out Great for me Because I still had the infamous B-heads that I Love.

As for the 99+ Crowd a Marauder motor or aviator would be the way to go for simplicity.

[STOCK GT]

It is misleading though because a 4V will do more with a Vortech V2 blower than the 2V motor can...


Why? Cause its a Better motor!

Im not bashing the 2v motor. Im just saying, if your going to do a Buildup at least start with something that can Grow and evolve into something instead of something that hits a wall at a certain power level.

Wasnt the Livernios "Tweety" car one of the fastest most hp 2v Cars?
that car still around?

[VTRauder]

Why? Cause its a Better motor!

Im not bashing the 2v motor. Im just saying, if your going to do a Buildup at least start with something that can Grow and evolve into something instead of something that hits a wall at a certain power level.

Wasnt the Livernios "Tweety" car one of the fastest most hp 2v Cars?
that car still around?

I never said the 4V wasn't a better motor, it's just pretty silly to say that building a 2V is a waste of time...not everyone needs 1000hp

[4v Shane]

Why? Cause its a Better motor!

Im not bashing the 2v motor. Im just saying, if your going to do a Buildup at least start with something that can Grow and evolve into something instead of something that hits a wall at a certain power level.

Wasnt the Livernios "Tweety" car one of the fastest most hp 2v Cars?
that car still around?

Tweety car is still alive and kicking!!!

x2 on hittin the wall

When you start to build a modular and price out the differences of the 2v,3v,4v when you break it down the price difference really is not that much.

Its like spending 30,000 on a 30 foot boat when you can snag a 50 foot for 35,000 :shrug: Not everyone needs 1,000 HP, but why not have the option to support it :893nana:

[STOCK GT]

I never said the 4V wasn't a better motor, it's just pretty silly to say that building a 2V is a waste of time...not everyone needs 1000hp


No, But for the Same price or Cheaper why not?

[VTRauder]

Tweety car is still alive and kicking!!!

x2 on hittin the wall

When you start to build a modular and price out the differences of the 2v,3v,4v when you break it down the price difference really is not that much.

Its like spending 30,000 on a 30 foot boat when you can snag a 50 foot for 35,000 :shrug: Not everyone needs 1,000 HP, but why not have the option to support it :893nana:

The question really is why spend 35K if you aren't gonna use the extra 20 feet

[Boomer!]

there is supposed to be a new 2v head or the romour goes being unvieled at PRI. At least thats what I hear round the way.

Trickflow showed a new 2 valve head at sema and it is said to flow 240/185 unported, it will also feature removable cam towers that can be replaced should one gets smoked.


Anyone questioning the power limits of a 2v needs to look up some information on Modular Powerhouse. They have several 2 valves into 900+ rwhp and even a couple 1000+.

[Sean]

wati for PRI. I do agree with you however.


edelbrock was supposed to do something 6 years ago but there "Wasnt a Market" for a 2v Head.

And why should there be? the 4v head kills the 2v head.
Even the new Factory 3v head is way better than a set of ported 2v SVO's


Ford pre05 SOHC= FAIL

[Sean]

They had it at Sema. That nice. I heard about it a few months back from my trickflow rep so It is nice the let the lid off the thing. They told me they were gonna wait till pri but SEMA is as good a place as any.
Trickflow showed a new 2 valve head at sema and it is said to flow 240/185 unported, it will also feature removable cam towers that can be replaced should one gets smoked.


Anyone questioning the power limits of a 2v needs to look up some information on Modular Powerhouse. They have several 2 valves into 900+ rwhp and even a couple 1000+.

[Fordguy]

Trickflow showed a new 2 valve head at sema and it is said to flow 240/185 unported, it will also feature removable cam towers that can be replaced should one gets smoked.


Anyone questioning the power limits of a 2v needs to look up some information on Modular Powerhouse. They have several 2 valves into 900+ rwhp and even a couple 1000+.


X2.....Modular Powerhouse has built some killer 2V motors.

[STOCK GT]

X2.....Modular Powerhouse has built some killer 2V motors.


Yea, but a 4v costs the same
1 its cooler
2 its got more potential
3 i said so. lol:haha:

[svtserpent]

u can get a nice used vortech s/trim kit for 3g's all day long, with everything,

[4v Shane]

u can get a nice used vortech s/trim kit for 3g's all day long, with everything,

I paid less ;)

[STOCK GT]

I paid less ;)

Since when do you have a blower?

[4v Shane]

Since when do you have a blower?

I've had it since I bought the car

:)

Just not on :(

He said for a additional $1900 I could have the polished SQ-V2 kit Only thing that was missing was the oil line and the bracket.

[soap]

I am a huge fan of 4V cars, but I have to admit, a built 2V with a KB will put down some NASTY numbers. In fact, the high hp 03-04 Cobra crowd (700+) are still trying to figure out how the 2V cars can make significantly more power than the 4V cars using the same blower no matter how much psi you throw at them.

There seems to be a peak of about 800hp using a twin screw and 03-04 Cobra heads. Yet the 2V guys are making well into the 900's......and I think over 1000 on a couple cars. Blower only in all scenario's (no nitrous).

It is like the 8th wonder of the world or some shit.

--Joe

[STOCK GT]

I've had it since I bought the car

:)

Just not on :(

He said for a additional $1900 I could have the polished SQ-V2 kit Only thing that was missing was the oil line and the bracket.


oil line is $25 and the bracket is $200.
what are you waiting for?

[2L8IWIN]

I'm with Stock GT...start by putting a solid foundation in the car. A 4V motor. Then anything you do from there on out puts you ahead of the game...especially against your 2v/3v buddies... :) unless you just want 4-500 horse power car to cruise around in...but it always starts there, doesnt it? If you arent horsepower addicts like most you might be able to live with it...but the first time a 4v lays a whooping on you youll be calling Lidio lol

If your car an automatic or stick? if its an auto 4V+Turbo=insanity..

[STOCK GT]

I'm with Stock GT...start by putting a solid foundation in the car. A 4V motor. Then anything you do from there on out puts you ahead of the game...especially against your 2v/3v buddies... :) unless you just want 4-500 horse power car to cruise around in...but it always starts there, doesnt it? If you arent horsepower addicts like most you might be able to live with it...but the first time a 4v lays a whooping on you youll be calling Lidio lol

If your car an automatic or stick? if its an auto 4V+Turbo=insanity..


Like either of us know anything about boosted 4v making anykind of power anyways...:dunno:

[b78cobra]

Yeah a freind of mine had his 94 built at alternative and its bad ass. This car I want to run good, but its a driver and I want to keep it to where I dont have to fix something every year. I have a older mustang (78) that I can go balls out on. Biggest problem there is the size of the engine compartment with that one. If I can get 12s out of the SOHC I'll probably stick with it for now.

[4v Shane]

oil line is $25 and the bracket is $200.
what are you waiting for?

I would prefer to have a completely forged bottom end so I can boost the shit out of it.

Then people are telling me I should pull the modular and go with a Big block :dunno:


I'm lost right now as of what I want to do.... I might be saying this next year:ls1:

[STOCK GT]

I would prefer to have a completely forged bottom end so I can boost the shit out of it.

Then people are telling me I should pull the modular and go with a Big block :dunno:


I'm lost right now as of what I want to do.... I might be saying this next year:ls1:


If Your Running less than 10psi with a good tune You should be good for the life of the car! lol

I boosted my 4v with 160k on itcompletly stock. drove it like I stole it @ 16-18psi for about 20k. Never Blew up either!

[STOCK GT]

u can get a nice used vortech s/trim kit for 3g's all day long, with everything,


I Sold my Vortech v2 S-trim kit for $1600 with injectors, pump, and Fmu...

[4v Shane]

If Your Running less than 10psi with a good tune You should be good for the life of the car! lol

I boosted my 4v with 160k on itcompletly stock. drove it like I stole it @ 16-18psi for about 20k. Never Blew up either!

:hmm:

:D

I'm now motivated!

[4v Shane]

I'm new to Mod engines, and I am interested in boosting my 01 GT. I've been looking around (ebay, craigslist) and have seen a lot of 03-04 dohc blowers, and some new 3v superchargers as well. Some are for the 5.4 f150s. Are the lower intakes totally different on the 5.4 from the 4.6? Or the intake ports from dohc to sohc? It would be nice if some of these parts were compatable with each other.

Look over on svtperformance.com their is guys always parting with vortech kits and pretty much any other part you could ever think of for a 2v 3v or 4v engine :thumbup:

[STOCK GT]

:hmm:

:D

I'm now motivated!


I might have a Bracket 4 you in my "pile of Parts"

[2L8IWIN]

no doubt! It's just going fast that I cant get down...what good is power if it's 13 seconds at a time...:893nana:



Like either of us know anything about boosted 4v making anykind of power anyways...:dunno:

[1BadSn95]

His goal is a mid / low 12 second daily driver.

The fastest, easiest, cheapest and reliable way to reach that goal would but to buy a blower. 10-12 lbs on a P.I. 2V and he should be where he wants for probably under 3k.

Although i agree with the 4V comments, as i have one. He doesnt need one to reach his goal.

[Sean]

Huh ? We have had a 4v make 615rwhp through a 4r70w at 12 psi. I have never seen a 2v even get close to the make juice. Granted it was a turbo motor but no way. If the 4v motors are not making power with the KB blower or similar roots blowers it is becuase the cams and the blower are not working together very well.

I am a huge fan of 4V cars, but I have to admit, a built 2V with a KB will put down some NASTY numbers. In fact, the high hp 03-04 Cobra crowd (700+) are still trying to figure out how the 2V cars can make significantly more power than the 4V cars using the same blower no matter how much psi you throw at them.

There seems to be a peak of about 800hp using a twin screw and 03-04 Cobra heads. Yet the 2V guys are making well into the 900's......and I think over 1000 on a couple cars. Blower only in all scenario's (no nitrous).

It is like the 8th wonder of the world or some shit.

--Joe

[KENNEBELL2.6]

Forged bottom end 2v and a KB with some alcohol and be done with it. I know of a 2v with 14#'s and alcohol that makes 620 something. Keep the 2v.

[kovacs32]

i always watch for a good priced blower for my 2v, but it seems the kits hold their value very well. last year i was watching a complete take off saleen blower kit, i forgot to watch the last day and bid, someone won the kit for $900 :(

[4v Shane]

i always watch for a good priced blower for my 2v, but it seems the kits hold their value very well. last year i was watching a complete take off saleen blower kit, i forgot to watch the last day and bid, someone won the kit for $900 :(

If I go a different route I'll let ya know buddy ;)

[kovacs32]

If I go a different route I'll let ya know buddy ;)

please due!

[soap]

If the 4v motors are not making power with the KB blower or similar roots blowers it is becuase the cams and the blower are not working together very well.

That could very well be........and if it is then no one with a 4V and PD blower has figured out the right combo yet, whereas the 2V guys have.

--Joe

[STOCK GT]

Stock Cams are Good to almost 1000 hp.

[STOCK GT]

Huh ? We have had a 4v make 615rwhp through a 4r70w at 12 psi. I have never seen a 2v even get close to the make juice. Granted it was a turbo motor but no way. If the 4v motors are not making power with the KB blower or similar roots blowers it is becuase the cams and the blower are not working together very well.


If the 2v's Were worth a Fuk the FORD GT 40 would be Sporting one of those instead...

Nobody wants to Knock their own 2v Car, but once you swallow your pride and admit the 4v is a better all around motor you will be better off.

Id take a 100k mile Stock 4v Motor over a Brand new Forged 2v anyday.

[4v Shane]

4v's > all

Ut oh the LS1 guys are gonna hop in here and :ls1:

[STOCK GT]

4v's > all

Ut oh the LS1 guys are gonna hop in here and :ls1:


I wouldnt say 4v's are that badass...

[KENNEBELL2.6]

If the 2v's Were worth a Fuk the FORD GT 40 would be Sporting one of those instead...

Nobody wants to Knock their own 2v Car, but once you swallow your pride and admit the 4v is a better all around motor you will be better off.

Id take a 100k mile Stock 4v Motor over a Brand new Forged 2v anyday.

2V's are junk.

[Sean]

Gt supercar cams with a KB would be a big improvement.

That could very well be........and if it is then no one with a 4V and PD blower has figured out the right combo yet, whereas the 2V guys have.

--Joe

[soap]

Gt supercar cams with a KB would be a big improvement.

I agree but I still don't think you are seeing what I am saying here. Practically every combo out there has been tried by the 03-04 Cobra crowd. All sorts of built engine/heads/cams combo's and NOTHING has achieved much more than 800 to the tires with a positive displacement blower.......and only a handful of people have even seen 800. However there are quite a few 2V cars that have seen well over 800 with a PD blower.......and all the way over 1000 to the tires.

Seems like if you want to make huge power with a 4V.......a turbo is the way to fly. However it sure does take a lot of work to get a turbo car to ET.

--Joe

[STOCK GT]

I agree but I still don't think you are seeing what I am saying here. Practically every combo out there has been tried by the 03-04 Cobra crowd. All sorts of built engine/heads/cams combo's and NOTHING has achieved much more than 800 to the tires with a positive displacement blower.......and only a handful of people have even seen 800. However there are quite a few 2V cars that have seen well over 800 with a PD blower.......and all the way over 1000 to the tires.

Seems like if you want to make huge power with a 4V.......a turbo is the way to fly. However it sure does take a lot of work to get a turbo car to ET.

--Joe


you dont happen to have a 2v motor do you?

[soap]

you dont happen to have a 2v motor do you?

No I do not.

--Joe

[VTRauder]

I agree but I still don't think you are seeing what I am saying here. Practically every combo out there has been tried by the 03-04 Cobra crowd. All sorts of built engine/heads/cams combo's and NOTHING has achieved much more than 800 to the tires with a positive displacement blower.......and only a handful of people have even seen 800. However there are quite a few 2V cars that have seen well over 800 with a PD blower.......and all the way over 1000 to the tires.

Seems like if you want to make huge power with a 4V.......a turbo is the way to fly. However it sure does take a lot of work to get a turbo car to ET.

--Joe

I'm partial to centri blowers :woot:

[STOCK GT]

I'm partial to centri blowers :woot:


Me Too, I hate Turbo Lag!!!

[wide winger]

On most of today's turbo's lag is a thing of the past.But to each his own. SC are a parasite on the motor. Nothing wrong with them its a personnel choice.
Freedom of choice, god love us!

[STOCK GT]

Any of you SOHC Lovers want To buy low mileage 2002 Gt Motor?

[jtcstrat]

im happy with my built 2v, will 4v make more power? yes. but im not looking for 1000rwhp

[Sxynerd]

My Vortech has never failed me.

[KENNEBELL2.6]

My Vortech has never failed me.

Because you have not raced me yet.

[4v Shane]

Because you have not raced me yet.

kenne who?

[KENNEBELL2.6]

Put your snow chains on and I will gladly show you. :)

[4v Shane]

Put your snow chains on and I will gladly show you. :)

:roll:


smartassssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

how much did you pay for the 2.6?

[KENNEBELL2.6]

Alot, I get depressed some times when I think about how much I have in the car then I drink alot. J/k Not quite sure the 2.6 blower does not come as a kit or at least didnt when my car was being done. I think it was close to 7k with the blower and all other supporting mods. Lidio did it. Its not cheap but looks factory.

[STOCK GT]

Alot, I get depressed some times when I think about how much I have in the car then I drink alot. J/k Not quite sure the 2.6 blower does not come as a kit or at least didnt when my car was being done. I think it was close to 7k with the blower and all other supporting mods. Lidio did it. Its not cheap but looks factory.


How much power did you make?

[4v Shane]

How much power did you make?

I'm gonna throw out a guess of 575-600?

[KENNEBELL2.6]

^maybe at the motor. It made 452@10psi,stock stroke, and stock heads. This winter Ill add some meth, timing and boost then hope like hell I see the low side of 600.

[4v Shane]

^maybe at the motor. It made 452@10psi,stock stroke, and stock heads. This winter Ill add some meth, timing and boost then hope like hell I see the low side of 600.

:woot:

KB FTMFW!

[sardeanie]

I got a 2 VALVE!

[KENNEBELL2.6]

One hell of one too! I wont be making as much power as you though.

[sardeanie]

One hell of one too! I wont be making as much power as you though.

Hey man, your car is cool. For stock heads and stroke that's good honest power. Somebody always has more power. I love the KB for what it is. And it's damn pretty too!:cheers:

[4v Shane]

More pics of your car sir?

[KENNEBELL2.6]

Check Alternatives site

[2004boss]

cant wait http://www.trickflow.com/pressreleases/TwistedWedgeHeads/
hmm why not http://www.trickflow.com/pressreleases/ValveCoversFord/

[b78cobra]

Should be a nice set of heads, is anyone running them yet?

[STOCK GT]

eddelbrock was supposed to come out with some heads many years ago...

[SVT32VDOHC]

This kit allows you to use the 03-04 Eaton blower from the Cobra.

http://shop.torktech.com/99-04gtsupercharger-lesskitusinga0304cobrablower-1.aspx

[b78cobra]

shit thats awsome, but 2000 bucks? shit it doesnt really save a lot does it?

[soap]

shit thats awsome, but 2000 bucks? shit it doesnt really save a lot does it?

It does look like some nice stuff. I am sure that lower intake isn't cheap and the intercooler alone will run you $700+

--Joe