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Yeah, it's definitely a GM issue:doh:
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For comparison, my old man's lease is a 2021 BigHorn 2, he's on a 39 month (I think 39k mile) lease....his buyout is just south of $32k.
He's way under on miles, which is why I am considering purchasing it next June when his lease is over. That, and it's never really seen snow or salt so it's damn near as new a vehicle as I can get.
I think all the brands are pretty comparable. I am sure you could cherrypick highs and lows, but in the end it is pretty similar.
The buyout on my Silverado is $34.5k - I might keep it if it was a crew cab, but between the Camaro and my truck, I would like to have one four adult passenger vehicle. Hoping to find something decent around $20k. I just don't need a full time truck anymore.
-Geoff
Found a 2013 Avalanche I want to check out. They are asking $22k for it, but I think there is room. Truck is NADA right about $20k. GMT900 for the win! Those LC9 engines are a dime a dozen too.
-Geoff
tons of rams in high $28,000 29,000 $30,000 range, i posted one earlier in the thread, they are out there
I looked at it and it was mess - it had 130k. They are all a mess! It is unbelievable to me what people are asking for complete garbage.
- Looked at a 2015 GMC Denali 108k miles - body was clean, but suspension was fried (danced all over the road on bumps), drifted hard left on the freeway, and literally had an exhaust leak audible when you got to half throttle. Plus, driver seat was collapsed from too much ass probably (pretty common actually on trucks with miles like this). They wanted $26k for that! This was at Matick Chevrolet too, a reputable dealer.
-2015 Silverado LTZ 2WD from Texas - I will admit, the underbody was spotless, but the body looked like it had been caught in a BLM riot. There was literally a hole drilled completely through the tailgate (wife said it was a bullet hole!), and every panel on the body had multiple scrapes and dents, including a couple of the black trim covers missing. They still wanted $23k!
-2012 Avalanche - They were asking $22k but dropped it to $20k. The body looks like in two years all the paint is going to finish bubbling up and start falling off in sheets. Are you kidding me? And it had a questionable engine knock. Pass. At Berger Chevrolet - looked awesome in pics!
-2010 Avalanche - This was only $14k, I had hopes. Had. The interior looked like the owner was on the Tough Mudder tour. The body was actually pretty clean, but the underbody was heavily rusty. The big dealbreaker was that nothing worked - seat coolers, heaters, Tire Pressure sensors, check suspension lights, check towing lights, etc. Honestly, if this was more functional I might have bought it. I don't need another project though.
Short term, I am adding six months to my current lease. Maybe the current insanity will end by November.
-Geoff
hahaha if you can easily extend the lease, let it ride
Ended up scoring a winner in Jacksonville Florida. 175k miles Escalade EXT. It is higher miles than I wanted, but it had a dealer installed crate motor at 100k. Everything works and it rides smooth as silk - put about 8 hours on it already between Jacksonville and Winston-Salem, then had it shipped for the final leg. The selling point was that when I crawled under it, there wasn't a spec of rust. OK maybe a spec, but nothing like what you get in Michigan. All the axles still had the black coating, and the paint was still white. It still needs a little work - couple dents, the CHMSL is out, but it was about the best I was going to do. Got the original wheels with it too, so will probably run summer/winter tires.
Andy, do you run a club or any other anti-theft device? I did a little research, and the Escalade EXT was one of the most stolen vehicles in the country while it was being produced... So that should be fun!
-Geoff
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Nice score, Congrats!
Just park it next to a kia, durango or charger when you go out. No anti theft device needed then. :gr_drivin
Leave one of those iphone GPS trackers in it.... if you want to get it back.
https://www.amazon.com/Apple-MX542AM...60898874&psc=1
Well, it took me months to find it, I just drove it back from Austin, Texas, I love it and ......
I'm already thinking, if I were to sell it? LOL! :lol:
2011 4x4 Tahoe, Fire Chief vehicle, 106,000 RUST FREE miles! Loaded with emergency
lighting and siren. Truck drove great @ 100+ mph. Made the 1,350 mile trip wonderfully!
I'm thinking $19,500. as a minimum? Given the rarity and condition, what do you guys think?
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Sell it? You just got it!
-Geoff
I think that's a good "I don't want to let it go, but I would for a price" amount. Super cool find, and I am jealous at how clean it looks. Everything I see around here is a goddamn rust bucket.
I am considering picking up a newish sedan....thinking something like an Impala or a Lacrosse. I was hoping to find a good low mileage, recently off a lease or something. Everything I am seeing has been rebuilt. I love that they all say "replaced front fascia" - yeah, I am sure a 3-4 year old vehicle was totaled because of a cracked fascia only.
Anyway - any good sites or resources I can watch for some good newer vehicles like this? The Marketplace, Autotrader, cars.com.....none seem very good for this. I don't get it, I feel like there should be plenty out there.
Neighbor has this for sale...
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Looks great, and they are damn nice vehicles, but I just can't get over $19k for a 172k mile vehicle, especially one that's spent 8 years in MI as I know how that story develops a few years from now with the rust.
The worst thing right now is the interest rates. I just paid 7.7% for a private owner sale at my credit union.
It's better then the 8.25% my sister paid to GM Financial to buy the lease from them. It was only financed for 6 weeks from them so it didn't matter much.
Seeing how we're out-of-state, a nice little trick is once you've found one
you really like, contact the local dealership in their state, and have the owner
take the car to his local dealership for a complete pre-sale inspection that you
pay for.
The dealership then emails you the inspection report. Most any legit seller will
simply take their vehicle to a local dealership for an inspection (that you're paying
for). Some may not, and that probably would saved you time & grief.
I myself, prefer to buy government vehicles. They tend to not have any reason not
to be honest & transparent about it. I talked to the Chief about my Tahoe before I
bought it. He was very helpful, filled the gas tank for me, picked me up at the airport, etc.
my wife and I ordered a new Maverick through a friend that is a salesperson in Dearborn .. it will be a 2024 and cant put the order in until July 1 ...he has been calling us each week offering us a Truck that was ordered and the people changed their mind
the one he called about this week had over 10k in options of crap we didn't want so we passed ... last week the one offered up was a 4 wheel drive non hybrid ...
I recently saw a article about the Maverick saying that Ford was (ramping ) up production but still cant meet Demand
That was the thing that drove me to buy from a dealer…. dealer rates were much much better. Got 3.49% through “The Local Credit Union” with 0 down. Paid a little more for the vehicle, but with better financing terms, it washed it out.
The market has been utterly fucked. Dealer bought my 2021 F-450 for $10k more than I paid for it and I put 6k miles on it. Before my Mom passed away, we looked at her lease buyout on her 2019 Escape Titanium, buyout was $17.2k and the dealer offered us $25k on the spot. I sold it private party for $28k. I don’t even recall the sticker new, but it wasn’t much higher than $28k I don’t think and that was after 3 years and 25k miles.
Should we really be surprised the market is so incredibly inflated with these kinds of things going on? My New F-350, the dealer wouldn’t even take my PIN. I went back and forth a lot on the dealer markup, but ultimately refused and they sold to me at MSRP.