I want a large shed/small garage built in my yard. Does anyone know someone who is reliable and good? I need everything, including cement.
I am in Troy.....Gary
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I want a large shed/small garage built in my yard. Does anyone know someone who is reliable and good? I need everything, including cement.
I am in Troy.....Gary
Maybe a stupid question, but can you even do that in Troy? I'm sure that there are differences in the areas even within Troy, just curious.
They were a bit expensive when I was getting mine quoted, but Miller Garages offer turnkey garages and sheds including cement. I ended up subbing it out myself, and Sal did most of the work...
-Geoff
Chelsea lumber sells kits and people to put them up.
I don't even know anymore. I used John's Lumber on Gratiot but last I heard they don't offer the installation anymore (maybe they do now?). I had Sal do Concrete, John's Lumber framed it, I paid the John's guy cash to roof it (he did my house too), then I sided it. I posted up my garage door guy on a previous thread. I had Miller come out and quote mine turnkey and they would have done it but it would have cost me another 20%.
Concrete was almost half the cost too. Not because Sal was expensive, but because when they excavated my garage, the foundation was actually a sistern filled with water and old bricks. Every neighbor was draining into my garage sistern, and there was a french drain spreading it back into the soil. It was crazy. The guy behind me threatened to sue because his back yard started flooding and I just laughed at him.
-Geoff
That's pretty crazy.
I have been thinking about building another garage in my backyard. The wife is tossing roadblocks on how big she is "willing" to let me go. I'm pushing for a 3 car or deep 2.5 car (I want a hoist) so 3 car is better for that.
There is a guy around the corner from me who built a large 2 car garage with a middle floor and giant attic. It was taller than the telephone poles (so Id assume 35-40 feet). It sat with no progress for a few months (wood getting soaked with rain water. I see he now has the middle floor removed and is slowly rebuilding. I want to talk to the owner to see how much of a nightmare it was/is.
It was built in 1950. There is a big house behind me that was built in the 1920's and the houses around me are all built on his "Garden". I didn't get any pictures of the cistern. I might have some old snaps of the garage though. There is still a PCV drain in the center of the low spot in my backyard. The French drain works great when all the neighbors aren't draining into my yard! I hardly ever flood.
-Geoff
From Chelsea...
Hi Gary,
Received your bid request for a small garage in Troy. While we could price the materials for this project it would not be competitive by the time we add the freight costs for 70 plus miles in urban traffic. Same holds true for contractors and concrete suppliers, they would have to include minimum charges in the bid to cover travel time making the pricing non-competitive as well.
Thank you for considering us but we must decline to bid at this time due to the distance from our market.
Bummer Gary.
I've contacted at least 7 different companies, including Miller Garages and wanna know how many have contacted me back??? Exactly ONE and that was Chelsea Lumber saying they can't do it....Sheese....
Must not be enough profit....
It is SO hard to get contractors right now. I feel your pain - been trying got get a local electrician since March.
-Geoff
Contractors and skilled labor have crazy backlog, most can name their price and turn down anything they want. It's crazy, and only going to get worse as no young people are getting into the skilled trades :(
--Joe
My brother is a licensed builder and a structural engineer. Give him a call.
John Hirmiz P.E. 248-934-1702
It’s just as crazy down here. I wanted to put a 14x24 bay on my garage and replace the roof trusses to give me some attic space and reside/reroof in metal.
I was quoted 31k and they couldn’t start for at least 6 months.
I scaled back my plans to something myself and a few friends can handle on our own.
Dennis
With the prices of wood these days due to the tariffs on Canada be prepared to sell a kidney, I just paid $12 for a 4x4 x8 piece of pine.
I'm getting anxiety thinking about that job! :shudder: I had all those old footings and bricks picked out of the ground... new footings dug, then work stopped for a few weeks cause of the screwed up inspector... THEN torrential rain for 2 weeks which turned your footings into 42" swimming pools that caved in and we had to redig the footings again..... all because of that damn inspector / telephone poles / back yard neighbors.... but after all that I must say you got one the best ass kicking garages!:lol:
Tuff Shed is the only one who has contacted me and I went to their place in R/O. It would be about 10K for a 16 x 24 garage fully constructed on my lot, not including concrete. Their garages are pretty basic, but the 10K includes a roll up door and a side entry door. It has basic trusses, 2x4's on 16" centers, 12" over hang all around and ridge vent. It includes 3 coats of paint and a 10 year warranty, whatever that means. So, with 4K for concrete, it will be less than 15K. Tuff Sheds are built to order in their Livonia factory and finished on your lot in a day, or two.
I am not sure if that is good or not, but is only a little more than what I expected... Does anyone else have a feel for this pricing?
If I were in the market for such build, it would seem fair priced in my opinion. I know that adding on to a garage & a new construction build for a out building is not the same, but if it gives any help to you, I was quoted 25K by a few places to add on roughly that square footage to a 2.5 car garage & I'd bring my own concrete... After some follow-up research as to what I am 'allowed' to have, the local ordinances revealed I'd need a waiver to build. Have not pursued it any further. Kind of sucks that the formula is dated to way back when even tho times have changed... ordinances are outdated
I built the addition onto my garage with a helper around 1990ish. I was quoted something less than 10K at the time and decided to do it myself. The helper was a friend and licensed builder and I paid him by the hour. I think by the time everything was said and done, I had 6K into it for everything.
Times have changed....grr
Seems like a fair price to me. You will probably pay that much in concrete too. I built my garage five years ago - 40 x 28, it was $6000 in lumber, and I paid Johns $5000 to frame it. Didn't include doors, roofing, or siding.
-Geoff
He will only have to do 2ft deep rat walls 8 inches wide unless his city code is much different then mine. That's 4.2 yards at 130 a yard. 16x24 at 4 inch thick is 4.7 yards. I dont remeber if the cement for flat work was more or less money then a footing mix. Say it's also 130. He will only have 9yds @$130 a yard for $1,170 plus rebar. Sp a little over $1,200 in material for rat wall and floor. I cant speak on the labor portion though. Shouldnt be too much though.
that is good knowledge ^
This thread makes me want to revisit adding on to the existing structure.
That 4k quote seems very high to me. For no more then $1,000 in material they will make 3,000 to dig a form it for half a day and then pour the next day. If your health and time permits it, I'd dig, form, and prep it myself. Call a concrete company and pay them, and hire 2 guys to come pull, float, and finish the slab.
Do you need someone that does concrete?
Yes, I am trying to get quotes - 2 out of about 10 have responded and they were both within $50 at a little more than 4K.
Edit - I just had the Tuff Shed recommended concrete guy call me back and he was also at 4K. Since he was recommended by Tuff Shed, he took $500 off, so he is at $3500 and he is licensed and all that.
grr