Dogs and what am i doing wrong?

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10-01-2013, 10:47 AM
nitrouspete

Dogs and what am i doing wrong?

sooooo i have two Dogs(brothers), they are pit and lab mixed. ive had them since they were 5 weeks old, now they are a year. ive been trying to train and make them better and not tear the house up when im away but its just not working. today they have pulled half my carpet back from the subfloor in my living room, chewed up my new table, 2 of the girls bras too. mind you there are 15-20 toys out for them to chew and play. im out of options. maybe call the dog whisperer? any help or hints or tricks?:flamesuit
10-01-2013, 10:53 AM
nitrouspete

http://www.motownmuscle.com/forums/f...aefc8d2914.jpg

the living room...
10-01-2013, 10:54 AM
nitrouspete

http://www.motownmuscle.com/forums/f...aefd8384e2.jpg

the pups
10-01-2013, 11:05 AM
soap

They are labs.....did you expect any different?

--Joe
10-01-2013, 11:08 AM
b.lee

Some good lookin dogs!
Try rawhide chews from meijer... sorta expensive but they go on sale every few weeks. (Beef and Chicken flavor)
My dogs love em
10-01-2013, 11:13 AM
jsxtreme

They must have a lot of pent up energy. Are they getting regular walks or trips to the dog park? Is your yard fenced in so they can go out and play?

I'd start with morning walks of at least 30 minutes.
10-01-2013, 11:19 AM
mustangjoe87

Steel toe boot... Perhaps send them to a training class and work with the trainer to get them whipped into shape.
10-01-2013, 11:25 AM
sn95_311

crate train them ,., ive got 2 pitts that are the best dogs in the world when me and my wife are home , but the second we leave and they have free roam of the house or even locked up in the same room together something is going to get ate and destroyed , so we lock my female up in a crate and my male gets free roam of our bedroom or even free roam of the house as long as 1 or the other is locked up nothing gets destroyed
10-01-2013, 11:28 AM
that national

Walk Them Often, Cage Them When Your Not Home
10-01-2013, 11:28 AM
Bateater

+1 for crate them
10-01-2013, 11:34 AM
DRAG-ULA

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Originally Posted by jsxtreme

They must have a lot of pent up energy. Are they getting regular walks or trips to the dog park? Is your yard fenced in so they can go out and play?

I'd start with morning walks of at least 30 minutes.

This
10-01-2013, 11:40 AM
mrvids

Labs are chewers. Frozen Kong toys-plug the hole with peanut butter so they have to work to get the treats out of the middle. Maybe a tug-of-war toy they can share with each other to keep both busy at the same time.
10-01-2013, 11:44 AM
svtserpent

We play chase the smelly old sock for 15min every morning before work.
10-01-2013, 12:17 PM
nitrouspete

haha, thanks for the response guys. i have an acre of land with an underground fence that they run every morning for 30-40 mins before i leave for work. i have 10-15 chew toys out. ive tried the crate training but i feel bad leaving them cooped up for 8 hours while im at work.

they love staying out all day in my back yard which i have no problem doing, but winter times comming and they need to be inside. they also get so dirty from being outside all day that they cant free rome the house then.
10-01-2013, 12:25 PM
jsxtreme

I can see hating leaving them crated for 8 hours, I would too. Personally I don't think I'd have a dog if someone wasn't home all day to let them in and out. But that's what you're going to have to dog most likely if morning exercise isn't working.
10-01-2013, 12:41 PM
beertestr

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Originally Posted by jsxtreme

I can see hating leaving them crated for 8 hours, I would too. Personally I don't think I'd have a dog if someone wasn't home all day to let them in and out. But that's what you're going to have to dog most likely if morning exercise isn't working.

All my dogs have loved being crated, except the bloodhound. Make them cave-like with blankets, that helps. My current ankle biter goes to his crate in the morning when we are about to leave. Don't make it a punishment to go on there, and they will grow to like it. My old chow-lab mix (we called him a Chowbrador) used to go lay in his crate when he felt like it, even when we were home.

If you have a mudroom, a strong baby gate might be all you need when they get older, but crate training has always worked for young dogs in my house.

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10-01-2013, 01:07 PM
VTRauder

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Originally Posted by nitrouspete

haha, thanks for the response guys. i have an acre of land with an underground fence that they run every morning for 30-40 mins before i leave for work. i have 10-15 chew toys out. ive tried the crate training but i feel bad leaving them cooped up for 8 hours while im at work.

they love staying out all day in my back yard which i have no problem doing, but winter times comming and they need to be inside. they also get so dirty from being outside all day that they cant free rome the house then.

Have to remember dogs aren't people. When you crate train a dog with a crate that isn't too big, (crate should only be big enough for the dog to stand and turn around, not big enough to walk around and pace) it's like a den for a dog, and they actually enjoy their crate. They feel comfortable in there.

They rip shit up when their humans are gone mainly because they are anxious. And having too much space can actually make it worse, most dogs thrive when given boundaries. Also it helps keep them from getting into and chewing things that could cause them harm.

My Huskies go into their crates in the morning, and if I'm late leaving stare at me wondering why I'm still home keeping them awake. Once a dog takes the crate as his/her own they will just sleep all day, maybe chew on a kong if you leave them one.
10-01-2013, 01:08 PM
nitrouspete

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Originally Posted by beertestr

All my dogs have loved being crated, except the bloodhound. Make them cave-like with blankets, that helps. My current ankle biter goes to his crate in the morning when we are about to leave. Don't make it a punishment to go on there, and they will grow to like it. My old chow-lab mix (we called him a Chowbrador) used to go lay in his crate when he felt like it, even when we were home.

If you have a mudroom, a strong baby gate might be all you need when they get older, but crate training has always worked for young dogs in my house.

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they dont mind being the the crates, i just say cage and they both go to their cages no problem. maybe im trying to let them free roam a little early?
10-01-2013, 01:10 PM
nitrouspete

ill go back to the crates i suppose. was just hoping i could get them to be able to stay out.
10-01-2013, 01:27 PM
sn95_311

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Originally Posted by nitrouspete

was just hoping i could get them to be able to stay out.

not going to happen man .,. 2 main reasons , there young and you have 2 of them , crate them now then when they get a little older try the free roam again
10-01-2013, 01:28 PM
kammi10

if you crate them just make sure that you do not use it as a place for them when they are bad. you want it to be their safe place where they can go and they can feel like they are safe. that is how you get them to go in it on their own
10-01-2013, 01:29 PM
VTRauder

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Originally Posted by nitrouspete

ill go back to the crates i suppose. was just hoping i could get them to be able to stay out.

Oh they are crate trained? Then yes it's too early. It'll prob be years before they are good to free roam. All dogs are different, but you may have to crate until 2+, especially chewers, maybe 4yrs old haha.
10-01-2013, 01:32 PM
nitrouspete

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Originally Posted by VTRauder

Oh they are crate trained? Then yes it's too early. It'll prob be years before they are good to free roam. All dogs are different, but you may have to crate until 2+, especially chewers, maybe 4yrs old haha.

yes, i crate trained from when they were 5 weeks, i just was feeling bad and attempting to do the free roam thinking things would get better, but i trust you guys since these are my first little guys so its all a new experience. back to crates.....lol
10-01-2013, 01:35 PM
sn95_311

now that I think of it , my moms had luck with a dog that had separation issues , try turning on a radio or tv when your gone , preferably in another room with a shut door so they cant put 2 and 2 together and figure out the noise is coming from the box lol ,., it gives them the sence that someone is home , you could even go as far as recording yourself for a day then when your gone just play the tape back so they hear your voice ...... worth a shot man
10-01-2013, 01:44 PM
nitrouspete

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Originally Posted by sn95_311

now that I think of it , my moms had luck with a dog that had separation issues , try turning on a radio or tv when your gone , preferably in another room with a shut door so they cant put 2 and 2 together and figure out the noise is coming from the box lol ,., it gives them the sence that someone is home , you could even go as far as recording yourself for a day then when your gone just play the tape back so they hear your voice ...... worth a shot man

i leave my tv in the living room on.....if i leave a tv in the other room on, they claw and dig into the drywall to get to the otherside......ask me how i know. lol
10-01-2013, 01:48 PM
AutoRoc

Maybe 900 toys led them to believe that the living room was the fun zone? my lab did that to the basement carpet.. I mentioned to him that he can be the new rug if he does that again.... he wised up.. :) He was crate trained then he was kitchen trained, now house trained.. Gradual territory growth.. If he ever has an accident, it's on the basement tile floor.. pretty smart.

They have a lot of energy, that's for sure. I'd keep them outdoors a few days a week till winter, maybe just sunny days..
10-01-2013, 01:50 PM
nitrouspete

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Originally Posted by AutoRoc

Maybe 900 toys led them to believe that the living room was the fun zone? my lab did that to the basement carpet.. I mentioned to him that he can be the new rug if he does that again.... he wised up.. :) He was crate trained then he was kitchen trained, now house trained.. Gradual territory growth.. If he ever has an accident, it's on the basement tile floor.. pretty smart.

They have a lot of energy, that's for sure. I'd keep them outdoors a few days a week till winter, maybe just sunny days..

maybe i can try this, let them hang in there room with the door shut all day then maybe access to both their room and kitchen, then living area....
10-01-2013, 01:54 PM
AutoRoc

Might be a few years to get them to stop the "I wanna dig a fuckin hole, man!!!!" Stage.
10-01-2013, 01:55 PM
beertestr

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Originally Posted by nitrouspete

they dont mind being the the crates, i just say cage and they both go to their cages no problem. maybe im trying to let them free roam a little early?

Probably a little early. Heck current ankle biter is 3 and we still crate him.

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10-01-2013, 02:01 PM
beertestr

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Originally Posted by nitrouspete

maybe i can try this, let them hang in there room with the door shut all day then maybe access to both their room and kitchen, then living area....

Hollow doors? They are easy to dig through, ask MD how I know. I now have polished aluminum diamond plate 2' up the basement door. Bloodhound was in the basement and wanted out. Replaced the door. Then she decided she wanted to be in the basement, door#2. Up went the diamond plate, and the STEEL baby gate went up to the mudroom.

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10-01-2013, 02:02 PM
AutoRoc

It should work, my dog knew that the couches were off limits well before he was allowed alone with them in the house. Took a few years. He also always had a window to see outside, starting with his first room, the kitchen. I assume that helps, could be wrong. If anything it keeps him entertained barking at stuff outside.
10-01-2013, 02:32 PM
nitrouspete

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Originally Posted by beertestr

Hollow doors? They are easy to dig through, ask MD how I know. I now have polished aluminum diamond plate 2' up the basement door. Bloodhound was in the basement and wanted out. Replaced the door. Then she decided she wanted to be in the basement, door#2. Up went the diamond plate, and the STEEL baby gate went up to the mudroom.

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haha, looks like we've all had our fair share of dog damage.
10-01-2013, 02:47 PM
ccbchevy

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Originally Posted by b.lee

Some good lookin dogs!
Try rawhide chews from meijer... sorta expensive but they go on sale every few weeks. (Beef and Chicken flavor)
My dogs love em

Dont use rawhide, worst thing for dogs they cant digest that stuff and if the bite off a large piece and it gets in their intestine you have to have them operated on to have it removed.
10-01-2013, 03:05 PM
nitrouspete

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Originally Posted by ccbchevy

Dont use rawhide, worst thing for dogs they cant digest that stuff and if the bite off a large piece and it gets in their intestine you have to have them operated on to have it removed.

i have nylon bones and thick ropes with knots.
10-01-2013, 04:32 PM
beertestr

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Originally Posted by ccbchevy

Dont use rawhide, worst thing for dogs they cant digest that stuff and if the bite off a large piece and it gets in their intestine you have to have them operated on to have it removed.

And the flavored stuff stains the carpets etc..

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Originally Posted by nitrouspete

i have nylon bones and thick ropes with knots.

good stuff. Bloodhound loved the rope knots. I lived that dog but she was hard on floors, furniture, aforementioned doors..

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10-01-2013, 07:07 PM
Detroit Gearbox

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Originally Posted by ccbchevy

Dont use rawhide, worst thing for dogs they cant digest that stuff and if the bite off a large piece and it gets in their intestine you have to have them operated on to have it removed.

Not to mention where most of them are made and the chemicals used to make them can be very harmful.
10-01-2013, 07:24 PM
Hugger Z

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Originally Posted by VTRauder

Oh they are crate trained? Then yes it's too early. It'll prob be years before they are good to free roam. All dogs are different, but you may have to crate until 2+, especially chewers, maybe 4yrs old haha.

I support the crate training. My old dogs were 2-3 before we got rid of the crates. Like everyone said, the crate is their safe place. And it will keep them from damaging your house and potentially hurting themselves in the process.
10-02-2013, 07:31 AM
nitrouspete

Thanks for all the tips guys, greatly appreciated.. my parents never let me have dogs when i was a kid, now i got my own place i got 2! haha

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