Debut is May 19 per Ford.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iS5f716oYQ
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Debut is May 19 per Ford.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iS5f716oYQ
Yikes - This slug wont be getting one anytime soon.
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GM one is just as much
Raptors and TRX are priced there too
Electric hybrid wranglers are getting $7500 tax break
I wondering if the buyout on my 2019 ram lease might be a good option. I wanted to purchase a used one and the buyout price is 24k I believe.
Car prices are just asinine. I'm still driving my 03 Bonneville, don't see that changing anytime soon.
I found a higher mileage ram 2015 v6 for only $17000
Yep new trucks are way overpriced
Don’t pay any attention to the new car stuff. I’ll probably never buy a new car again. Look for low mileage used vehicles. New car prices are insane and I refuse to pay that kind of money. And the electric stuff doesn’t interest me in any way. Couldn’t care less about the electric Lightning.
Green New Deal at work, folks.
here is the lightning
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https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/18/2...k-first-images
I was hoping for something more.... sporty. That's disappointing.
Yawn.
Interested to see how it compares the the new Hummer in terms of range, battery pack, charging, etc.
-Geoff
For how I use my truck it would be fine. As long as I could get home with a skid of mulch in the back like I did last month - which is the truckiest thing I do in my Silverado. I don't need to go more than 300 miles at a time. On the rare occasions I travel far with it, I will have to plan the charge stop anyways, so it would be part of the trip. One thing you can't generally do, is just assume you can run an extension cord and plug it in. Takes forever to get a charge on 110 V.
I think Ford might have a hit here if they can keep the lease price comparable to the regular F150. It sounds like they could with a $40k-ish sticker too.
-Geoff
I think it checks all the boxes. They will sell. If they ever make a 2 door short bed, look out.
230 miles of range on the standard version isnt even enough range to get me to my favorite weekend fishing spot and back in one day.
300 miles?
I'd like to see how far it gets pulling 4 snowmobiles to the UP in February on a cold day. I'm guessing you have to stop twice on the way up there to recharge.
What if you launch a boat and the rear end of the truck is in the water, does that fuck things up?
Yes it makes a lot of power/torque, but I'll keep my old farm truck.
If I had to guess, I would say that with 10,000 lb loads you would be down maybe to maybe 100-120 miles in range. At 5000 lb I would guess it would be around 200-220 miles. But yea, it would be tough to use an EV like that as a primary vehicle to go very far up north. If you look at the Lightning, Ford is claiming that it will calculate range based on what the load in the truck is. If you were 200 miles from Houghton (213 miles from my house), then you would be right on the limit with two sleds, and you would have to have a charging station when you get there. The truck would advise you on the way if you were going to make it, and tell you where to charge if it thought you weren't going to make it.
The cold doesn't hit the EV's like it used to because the heat pump systems are so efficient. Most EV's don't even have a traditional heater core anymore, they use a heating condenser running off the AC system to generate cabin heat. Most of them have an electric cabin heater, but it is only used until the heat pump is up to temp. The only thing that traditional green anti-freeze is used for is moving heat into and out of the battery pack. The heat pumps have made a huge difference in cold range compared to previous generations, which is a big change from first gen EV's 20 years ago. The tech is actually pretty amazing when you dig into it.
-Geoff
It’s a truck it needs to do truck things. Long camping trips pulling my 5th wheel around Michigan, down south or out west is a requirement. I’d spend the trips charging batteries. Looks like it would handle pulling the car or wood hauler around locally so that good.
Most people don’t use their trucks as “trucks” so I’ll work great as a pavement pounder.
How many people are towing 5th wheels with an F150?
I love how all the Libs are on the EV kick because it’s “environmentally friendly” and clean, but ignore the mining process of lithium and cobalt that are required to make these batteries. Came across this interesting article on the mining of cobalt which a majority of it is mined in Congo in Africa. Does Bill Ford know about these kids and what are his thoughts on it?
https://www.raconteur.net/corporate-...-human-rights/
You would be surprised how many ECO boost F150s I see pulling 30-35’ light weight 5th wheels. Pin weight is the biggest issue but most people don’t pay attention to that. :lol: One time I talked to a guy pulling a 38’ toy hauler. He claimed it pulled fine till he hit the hills around West Branch, I have my doubts.
Gosh, what will the stupid hillbillies do now since they won't be able to chop off the stock exhaust and replace it with 2 chamber flowmasters.....