while GM trucks sit in muddy lots new RAMS are sold and built daily

[WhiteHawk]

people want those ugly trucks? lol

GM is reopening Oshawa Assembly to build EVEN MORE! When they filed bankruptcy, GM closed three full size plants - Oshawa, Pontiac, and Janesville. looks like that was one too many.

-Geoff

[Krazybones]

Or was it a way to bust up a stagnant Tier 1 higher wage UAW workforce while volumes are low. Bring it back as an eager to work Tier 2 UAW workforce at lower pay and no pensions.

GM is reopening Oshawa Assembly to build EVEN MORE! When they filed bankruptcy, GM closed three full size plants - Oshawa, Pontiac, and Janesville. looks like that was one too many.

-Geoff

[mustangmike6996]

Or was it a way to bust up a stagnant Tier 1 higher wage UAW workforce while volumes are low. Bring it back as an eager to work Tier 2 UAW workforce at lower pay and no pensions.

I thought they got rid of the "tier" system (in terms of the pay difference from newer people to the people that have been there for a while). There is a big push to get workers that are about to retire or have pensions out of the big 3. They are doing everything they can to cut costs right now.

[Axis]

people want those ugly trucks? lol

If getting those ugly trucks off the hold lots and into dealerships gets the prices on all trucks trending back down, then please, please, please go buy them so I can afford a used truck in the spring.

[dline]

Even the lease prices keep going up too, I dont know how people afford new

Got my used Ram at the right time in Feb

[Krazybones]

If getting those ugly trucks off the hold lots and into dealerships gets the prices on all trucks trending back down, then please, please, please go buy them so I can afford a used truck in the spring.

At this rate I will be buying out my current 2019 F150 lease. Thankfully I really like it, obviously just not a new 2021/22 that I want more.

[WhiteHawk]

Even the lease prices keep going up too, I dont know how people afford new

Got my used Ram at the right time in Feb

It seems like the business model is based on leasing them new, then selling used at what they cost new 10 years ago. I can't imagine buying a $50k truck new, and that is just an average one. $10k down and $700 a month for 6 years? Crazy.

-Geoff

[1BADAIR]

At this rate I will be buying out my current 2019 F150 lease. Thankfully I really like it, obviously just not a new 2021/22 that I want more.

Me too . Buy out is 31k. Lease prices have increased a lot

[4Gas$]

I really like my 2014 Ram, the v6 performance is very good & gas
mileage wonderful. Unfortunately it doesn't tow much of anything
and I had been trying to upgrade to a more heavy duty v8 truck.

Well, I have been completely priced out of the market and have given up on
trying to purchase a replacement. If I have to be "stuck with a truck",
at least I have one that I really do like and it is serving me well.

[dline]

been using E85 in my V6 ram, mileage on 87 is real nice on long trips, and as fast in 1/4 mile as my older 5.3 v8 truck