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| Hot Topics in the News - Discussions & Debates Solving the World's Problems - One Argument at a Time |
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11-03-2009, 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cjmatt
enough is enough...they want to take every dollar we make and just tax the hell out of it, then spend it on stupid frivolous bullshit pet projects of their own. How are people allowing this?
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Pretty much.
I think they are shoving it down our throats because they want the rest of the world to look at us and say "They DO care! They give everyone free health care."
Fuck that. I could give a damn less about the world's view.
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11-03-2009, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by patman
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I guess I've missed it, but why is this health care thing so important to them? Americans don't want it. We've been vocal about it. Washington knows it. But they are still hell bent to push it through. I don't get it. 
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It is pandering to the poor and the minorities, just like politicians (mostly democrats) always do. Rich politicians pretending to care about the poor in order to get votes so they can line their own pockets a little more.
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11-03-2009, 02:17 PM
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#13
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Wait a few years after this has passed and they realize the money isn't there to support a system on this large of scale. They will be looking for any way to increase revenues to cover it. Can't you already hear them say, well, since you want that big mac, it could lead to blocked arteries and we just can't afford that. So either certain products (what they feel bad for you) are going to be taxed to the hilt or eventually they will deny coverage due to your "reckless" behavior.
Remember, anything the goverment gives out must first be taken from it's people.
God I hope this doesn't pass.
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11-03-2009, 04:56 PM
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when is this up for vote??
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11-03-2009, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by camaromann
when is this up for vote??
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I think it was supposed to be by november 11th for the House Bill. And why not? We desperately need to decide if we're going to spend hundreds of billions of dollars in 2018...by next week.
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Last edited by DBK; 11-03-2009 at 04:59 PM.
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11-03-2009, 05:00 PM
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It is supposed to be voted on this week.
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11-03-2009, 09:17 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cjmatt
we need a new "shot heard round the world"
enough is enough...they want to take every dollar we make and just tax the hell out of it, then spend it on stupid frivolous bullshit pet projects of their own. How are people allowing this?
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The sheep have voted for a black teleprompter as president.
And now we wreep what we have sewn.
A government out of control because of our complaisance.
VOTE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11-03-2009, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by stalked_R/T
Speaker Nancy Pelosi has reportedly told fellow Democrats that she's prepared to lose seats in 2010
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And that's exactly what's going to happen
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11-05-2009, 04:01 PM
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Speaker Pelosi’s Government-Run Health Plan Will Require a Monthly Abortion Premium
Posted by GOP Leader Press Office on November 5th, 2009
Health care reform should not be used as an opportunity to use federal funds to pay for elective abortions. Health reform should be an opportunity to protect human life - not end it.
Unfortunately, Speaker Pelosi’s 2,032-page government takeover of health care does just that. On line 17, p. 110, section 222 under “Abortions for which Public Funding is Allowed” the Health and Human Services Secretary is given the authority to determine when abortion is allowed under the government-run plan. The Speaker’s plan also requires that at least one insurance plan offered in the Exchange covers abortions.
What is even more alarming is that a monthly abortion premium will be charged of all enrollees in the government-run plan. It’s right there on line 16, page 96, section 213, under “Insurance Rating Rules.” The premium will be paid into a U.S. Treasury account - and these federal funds will be used to pay for the abortion services.
Section 213 describes the process in which the Health Benefits Commissioner is to assess the monthly premiums that will be used to pay for elective abortions under the government-run plan. The Commissioner must charge at a minimum $1 per enrollee per month.
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http://republicanleader.house.gov/blog/?p=666
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