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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickLX View Post
    That may be the case, but when a customer tells them EXACTLY what they are going to do with the car, the power levels, the current or expected 60 fts, and what transmission they are using...They should get it right the first time. Not put street junk in it and charge them for the "race" quality parts they asked for. Hell they even went so far as to use the brand of gears they were explicitly told NOT to use. Then when I have it taken apart by their own employees and they tell me that it was the poor choice of parts that cause the rear end to grenade, on top of the fact that they used a crush washer in a "race" application that obviously called for a solid spacer. One would think that telling them "I will be leaving the line off a 2-step at 72-7500 RPM with a 5 speed manual trans" would be enough information to keep them from doing something so stupid. Oh, and after hearing "you're lucky the rearend didn't lockup and throw you into the wall" about a hundred times, yeah I was a little pissed.

    Here's and example of how well their crap held up after about 25 passes. Per DTS this was caused by excessive back-lash due to launching the car and the rear-end being built with a crush washer instead of a spacer. This excessive lash caused the ring-gear and spool to shift rearword in the housing resulting in axle tubes that were bent forward by nearly an inch and a bunch of broken teeth.



    The boys on Groesbeck are completely lacking the necessary racing background to be working on anything other than a stocker, bottom line.




    The IONIA guys however definately know their shit, and they build your stuff so you can thrash on it again and again.
    ouch!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickLX View Post
    That may be the case, but when a customer tells them EXACTLY what they are going to do with the car, the power levels, the current or expected 60 fts, and what transmission they are using...They should get it right the first time. Not put street junk in it and charge them for the "race" quality parts they asked for. Hell they even went so far as to use the brand of gears they were explicitly told NOT to use. Then when I have it taken apart by their own employees and they tell me that it was the poor choice of parts that cause the rear end to grenade, on top of the fact that they used a crush washer in a "race" application that obviously called for a solid spacer. One would think that telling them "I will be leaving the line off a 2-step at 72-7500 RPM with a 5 speed manual trans" would be enough information to keep them from doing something so stupid. Oh, and after hearing "you're lucky the rearend didn't lockup and throw you into the wall" about a hundred times, yeah I was a little pissed.

    Here's and example of how well their crap held up after about 25 passes. Per DTS this was caused by excessive back-lash due to launching the car and the rear-end being built with a crush washer instead of a spacer. This excessive lash caused the ring-gear and spool to shift rearword in the housing resulting in axle tubes that were bent forward by nearly an inch and a bunch of broken teeth.



    The boys on Groesbeck are completely lacking the necessary racing background to be working on anything other than a stocker, bottom line.




    The IONIA guys however definately know their shit, and they build your stuff so you can thrash on it again and again.
    Sorry, about your luck. I can't argue with that story. That is some nasty carnage. You definately needed heavier duty stuff, than what I have had them make for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldblue012 View Post
    I'm not too sure on the weight of the car. It's a 92LX. I'm swapping in a QA1/HAL k-member+coil over front suspension right now and I've pretty much stripped the interior.

    I'm actually going to but the interior back together a bit because it was so damn loud in the car without any carpet or whatnot.

    I've added in through floor subframe connectors and a 10pt cage so that adds some weight.

    As for the motor, it's in the building progress now. I have a 9.2:1 347, Total Engine Airflow 205CNC TFS twisted wedge heads, and a Vortech YSi.

    I'll be shoving that through a reverse manual C4 w/ transbreak.

    Do you know how much a DTS rebuild costs? My diff + gears and whatnot are all in good shape. Actually the gears are brand new. I had someone set them up last summer but didn't finish the car.
    With the power you could make with that combo I would recomend to have the tubes welded. Take it to Team Z in Flat Rock. I know a guy who had his welded up there.

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    We do allot of 8.8's and have a process that works first we DON'T MIG weld the tubes we use a specific rod for welding cast to steel, that is critical for life in an 8.8 also when we set up the ring and pinion we make our own pinion spaces and have spacific tolerances, and pre loads, which are important!

    We have built quite a few 8.8's holding well over 1200hp and are stil alive 4 years later!

    it's all in the prep!
    "You didn't Build it" LMFAO isn't that what Oboma said too?

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    Team Z did mine and everything was top notch.

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